A Final Thought On Antonio Bryant
August 29th, 2010
Count Joe among the masses who thought the Bucs should have signed Antonio Bryant this offseason.
Bryant caught 39 balls in 2009, several of the spectacular variety, from three quarterbacks on a dreadful team. And he battled through injuries to play in 13 games. In Joe’s eyes, he was a special talent and was easily the best the Bucs had.
For Joe, re-signing Bryant was an absolute no-brainer, under one condition. The same condition that any team or fan would apply to any player, Bryant had to be healthy enough to play at a high level..
Now Joe wasn’t so sure the Bucs would deem Bryant healthy. After all, Joe was the only one to transcribe Bryant’s “bone on bone” knee description he laid out during an interview on the Buccaneers Radio Network last year. And how one recovers from bone-on-bone issues is surely unclear to Joe.
When the Bengals signed him in free agency, though, Joe assumed the Bengals’ doctors knew what they were doing. So Joe slammed the Bucs for not signing Bryant. Sure enough, Adam Schefter, of BSPN.com, tweeted about Bryant’s bone-on-bone issues about a month ago as if he had unearthed a revelation.
When Joe saw that, it was obvious the Bengals doctors flat out screwed up.
Mark Dominik made the right move in not signing Bryant. Still, Joe thinks it would have been the right move if Bryant were healthy.
Now Bucs beat writer Pat Yasinskas, BSPN.com beat writer for the NFC South, is trumpeting today that the Bucs should be lauded for passing on Bryant. Yasinskas also is spouting off that the Bengals cut Bryant today for reasons other than his knee, which kept him out of nearly the entire Bengals training camp and preseason.
They cut Bryant in part because he had some knee problems. They also cut him because they realized he just wasn’t that good and, maybe – just maybe – because Owens would be a better fit in the locker room.
Joe is appauled that Yasinskas is making such assertions, when his colleague James Walker, who covers the AFC North, follows the Bengals daily and never made such leaps. The archives are all there.
Plus, Joe has never seen such negative conjecture about Bryant in the Cincinnati Enquirer.
Joe thinks its shameful that Yasinskas essentially is putting it out there that Bryant stunk it up in Cincinnati and was a bad apple. Who’s your source, Pat?
Joe just wanted to get that out there before Yasinskas’ paragraph quoted above is magically deleted without explanation from Disney’s website. That’s been known to happen on the NFC South blog.
August 29th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Joe said:
“When the Bengals signed him in free agency, though, Joe assumed the Bengals’ doctors knew what they were doing. So Joe slammed the Bucs for not signing Bryant.”
You know what they say about assuming Joe. 🙂
August 29th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Your confuseing me without nicknames joe. Are we talking about no source vacation man?
August 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Exactly why the nicknames needed to go, topdoggie. If you hear or read some information from one of these guys and only know them as “Vacation Man” or “Mad Twitterer” or whatever, you may not know it’s the same guy that pays no attention to the team and flip-flops his view in a matter of a couple days. I’d hate to see someone reading an article by some schmuck that has no clue, and believing it because they don’t know it’s the same guy they call “Vacation Man”.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Mr. Dom appears to have been right on Antonio.
I hope one day the man can play again as he is quite talented and perhaps the best hands I have seen on a buc receiver.
From what I can gather, it is a “bone on bone” issue, and too painful for him to trust the cuts.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
I’m not sure, was there an apology in there to the Bucs organization or a long diatribe against a respected member of the fourth estate.
August 29th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Joe, having your mea culpa outshined by Eric on an issue that is as near and dear to Eric’s heart as Antonio Bryant, is not a good sign. 🙂
(No offense intended Eric)
August 29th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Joe, I agree. I never heard of him causing issue either, and how can anyone say (with a streight face) that OT is a better fit in the locker room than just about anyone. This “vacation man” is a tool!
August 29th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
BamBamBuc:
Interesting perspective there. Thanks… Joe thinks. 🙂
August 29th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
I read Vacation Man a lot only to see just how off into the 4th dimention he gets sometimes. He really got hung up on the fact that Bryant basically had one foot out the door last year with his “moving vans.” I’m pretty positive this is the only thing Vacation Man is basing his judgment on. Bryant always had talent, anyone in the league knew that. His question marks were always if his head was right and the injuries.
Vacation Man needs to be a little less part-time and a lot more full-time and actually pay attention if he really gives a crap about what he writes. But it’s comical entertainment!!! (and isn’t that what bspn is really all about? i mean come on, lets be honest) lol
August 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Leighroy:
To suggest, as Pat Yaz does, that Antonio Bryant is a bigger cancer than Terrell Owens is beyond laughable.
August 29th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
So who’s worse, Patty Y or Roy Cummings???
They are neck in neck for the worst Bucs beat writers in America.
Remember that article where Patty Y ranked the NFC South head coaches? And he ranked Gruden 6th while putting guys ahead of him that didn’t even coach in the NFC South? LOL. I wonder if he is just jealous that Jon Gruden got a gig on MNF with ESPN, and then draft coverage with ESPN… all the while, he still mucks it up as an NFC South failed blogger?
August 29th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Hey JimBuc.
You ever gonna admit how wrong you were about Donald Penn?
That’s what I thought you little …
August 30th, 2010 at 3:03 am
Some of us trusted Dom, and spotted the problem before Cinci ever signed him. I wish I could say I’m surprised, but you would have to be wearing blinders to miss this one. What a costly joke on the Bengals. $8 Mil up in smoke. You have to be tough to be dumb, and someone should get fired over this mistake, or elected to Congress.
August 30th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Joe said:
“When the Bengals signed him in free agency, though, Joe assumed the Bengals’ doctors knew what they were doing. So Joe slammed the Bucs for not signing Bryant.”
Joe seems to have done a lot of assuming lately ,and it’s usually WRONG. Chalk up yet another one in the loss column, LOL
August 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Looks like Bucs GM knew a little bit more than everyone thinks. Lets see how cancer 2 clayton shakes out….
August 30th, 2010 at 7:59 am
jlynch:
Come on man, Joe understands how fans hate Clayton. But there is not one shred of evidence he was ever a cancer.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:27 am
If he was healthy, it was debatable if he was worth what he wanted. BUT, many of us were screaming he was NOT worth it because he has NEVER been healthy for more than 1.5 years in a row in his entire career.
I, for one, would not have had a problem if they signed him, but thought they would be better off going after another vet due to Bryant’s history with injuries.
August 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Zero — already addressed your Penn stupidity. Not going to waste my time with you. Seems I have Zero Tolerance for your Zero Intelligence given your inane commentary.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:18 am
So there you have it, JimBuc is too much of a p—y to admit he was flat out wrong about Penn, won’t admit it because she’s a women, but yet keeps trying to call Joe out here and there. You’re a sad sack.
Mushmouth, now you are calling Joe out? I am quite sure you have posted at least once or thrice that you wanted Bryant re-signed or complained when they did’t re-sign him. So you trying to call him out when you cried about the same position? Huh? What about your ASSumptions that A Benn is a bust and we haven’t even finished pre-season??? Yeah, okay.
Jimbuc is still the worst though, that pompus fairy.
August 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Yeah, that Dom was a genius when it came to Bryant! And Cincy was stupid to lay out 8 mil. But there is one little problem with Dom’s genius. What about the 26 mil he laid out for Clayton? with over 10 Mil. Guaranteed! I guess that genius meter just bottomed out!
August 30th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Zero — name calling is among the weakest of all responses you could provide, particularly in light of the fact that I actually took the time to explain your error on Penn. All you (or anyone else) has to do is look through the archive. It is there for all to see.
So, either you cannot read (a distinct possibility) or perhaps more likely you are simply chooing to ignore the fact that I provided a response because you are a childish little flame thrower. Either way, best of luck to you.
August 30th, 2010 at 10:54 am
You never admitted you were wrong Jimbuc.
You spent weeks upon weeks talking about the Penn situation.
You were wrong and you won’t admit it. But yet you keep harping on Joe about being wrong, IN his blog ABOUT being off. He wrote an entire blog about it.
Where’s your excuse? Because you sure didn’t come and admit anything. If I recall you tried to say that not only were you NOT wrong, but you were still right.
You are a loser.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:00 am
LMAO. 🙂 Fitting name ZERO, fitting name.
So, you do recall my response? I see. So, you just choose to ignore it because you cannot come up with a response. LOL. Instead, you choose to call me names? LMAO. That is so weak.
I was right about Penn. You were wrong. Get over it. It’s all there for anyone to read. That was weeks ago. Geez . . .you need to get a life ZERO.
August 30th, 2010 at 11:06 am
ZERO — I know we talked about your reading problems, but try to take a look at this:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/25/on-further-review-donald-penns-deal-wasnt-nearly-as-good-as-advertised/
Heck, Joe even wrote about the subject, so just look through the archive,
Amazing what you will find if you put down your skateboard and get on your parent’s computer and look around a little. 🙂
August 30th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
JimBuc Says:
August 30th, 2010 at 8:43 am
Seems I have Zero Tolerance for your Zero Intelligence given your inane commentary.
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Now that’s funny.
Mushy has some competition for JBF comedian of the month award.
August 30th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Zero ….
I NEVER wanted Bryant back…..feel free to go searching through the archives , my friend.
I said his attitude was piss poor , he’s a one year wonder , and his knee is shot . I was totally on board with dumping him from day 1 of this offseason .
Look it up !
August 30th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Zero has mastered the art of making stuff up.
August 30th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Jimbuc you spent weeks upon weeks claiming that Penn wasn’t going to get a long term deal. You said he sould have just signed his 1 year tender linke everyone else.
Don’t be such a liar. Weeks you harped on this. Weeks you cried for Joe to change his blogs to never talk about the subject again.
You are a liar through and through. You are too much of a p—y to not admit you were wrong. But that’s cool, I know you have ZeroCredibility anyway.
Mush… if i had time to perfomer a research project, joe doesn’t have search’s for his comments, it would be very easy to find your dirt too.
Remember, morons in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. 🙂
August 30th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Uh oh, looks like Zero is begging to be nicknamed.
Zero, are you attempting to be the JBF Enforcer?
You already coined JimBuc as the Mother Hen of JBF. But since he left, after the Donald Penn, I mean Vincent/Zuttah implosion, there has been a vacuum of sort regarding his mother hen duties.
Zero, I really hope you tone it down, because I seriously doubt Joe needs ‘protection’ from JimBuc. LMAO! You may as well let JimBuc be JimBuc and enjoy his insane positivity toward Raheem Morris.
I mean JimBuc thinks Raheem is a better coach than Gruden.
Nuff said bro!
August 30th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I’ve never liked Bryant , Zero. You’re thinking of someone else .
However, i seem to remember JimBuc saying the same things you remember. He did totally throw Penn under the bus when he thought the Glazers and Radio/Dumbinik were ready to throw him under the bus also.
August 30th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Joe:
I wasn’t suggesting Bryant is more of a cancer than TO. That would be like trying to argue the moon is brighter than the sun. But Bryant did have his problems, and I just think that those were what PY zoned in on with his tunnel vision.
Obviously with a gun to my head I’d rather have (healthy) Bryant on my team than TO, but frankly I’d chose neither if given the option.
August 30th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
Zero:
I know I am wasting my time but just so you can stop whining and get back on your skateboard, I will clear a few thing up for you.
I said that Penn would play and that he had little or no leverage. I joked with Joe — repeatedly, look it up — that all the hysteria about Penn sitting out was “much ado about nothing.” ZERO — is Penn playing? He is, right? LMAO
Further, contrary to your statement, Penn did not get a “long term deal”:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/25/on-further-review-donald-penns-deal-wasnt-nearly-as-good-as-advertised/
Because the Bucs had the leverage they were able to get him at a reasonable deal so they took it. There is almost no upside risk for the Bucs. Penn did not get what he was seeking, which was reported $9-10 million per year. He got, essentially, a series of one year contracts, as pointed out by Joe and Florio and others. Penn got the Ferguson-type deal. So, just stop whining long enough to actually read and even you should be able to understand.
Wow . . . talk about slllooooooowwwwwwww
August 31st, 2010 at 2:29 am
Harp on me, Zero… I still think Penn should have signed his tender. After watching him getting pushed 3 yards in the backfield while run blocking (when he was supposed to be drive blocking or “pushing the defender”) and watching him get beat by Hali the week before in pass protection where Freeman didn’t get sacked or hit, but if you don’t call it a “pressure” getting within 2 feet of the QB and having him hit your helmet, then I don’t know what to call it. Penn hasn’t looked good (of course, I could say the O-line in general hasn’t looked good). He should have signed the tender, because he’s not worth 6 mil a year yet.