Will Glazers Dig Heels In With McCoy’s Contract?
July 17th, 2010
The next and possibly ugly battle to be waged on the NFL labor front is underway. That would be the signing of the 2010 first-round draft class.
Owners across the league are hoarding cash and preparing for a lockout in 2011. So who could expect them to start gleefully throwing around alleged market-rate dollars for rookies? Especially when a rookie salary cap seems an inevitable byproduct of a new collective bargaining agreement (whenever that actually happens).
Woody Cummings, beat writer for The Tampa Tribune, believes a big squeeze might be forthcoming from the Rams to No. 1 overall pick Sam Bradford, and force a trickle down effect of holdouts that could include Bucs manbeast in waiting Gerald McCoy.
At a time when a five-year contract and $50 million in guaranteed payouts would be the norm for Bradford, there is talk the Rams may try to get Bradford to accept a three-year deal that includes less than $30 million in guarantees.
That would represent a significant step backwards for the players, who are already facing the strong likelihood that a far-less-lucrative rookie wage scale will be part of the new collective bargaining agreement.
The players, of course, are hoping to maintain the status quo at least through the current negotiating season. That desire could result in several rookie holdouts, possibly including McCoy, who was drafted third overall.
Surely Team Glazer would never stand for negotiations that could affect the Bucs’ on-field performance. After all, Joel Glazer recently said “money will never be an issue” when it comes to building the Bucs. Why Joe even expects Glazer to step in soon and demand that Mark Dominik sign Donald Penn to a long term deal.
Kidding aside, with defensive tackle Brian Price missing a load of offseason practice time already because of school commitments and an injury, the Bucs certainly can’t afford — on the field — to have McCoy miss any training camp.
Given the labor situation, Joe has little hope of a smooth, holdout-free process.
July 17th, 2010 at 4:58 am
Ole “Woody” may not have his finger on the pulse on this one:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5385835
Looks like the Rams and Bradford are negotiating the biggest deal in history.
Then again, it is BSPN.
July 17th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Joe, if McCoy signs before training camp will you run an article stating that money really was not an issue? Just curious?
July 17th, 2010 at 10:00 am
Joe here,
JimBuc – Of course, I expect McCoy to sign. I expect to write about his deal. And I expect to link to Glazer’s words.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/mar/24/joel-glazer-q-money-will-never-be-issue/
Not sure what you’re looking for.
July 17th, 2010 at 10:20 am
They never said stupidity wouldn’t be an issue…………………
July 17th, 2010 at 10:28 am
JimBuc,
Since you seem to not like it when Joe may take even the slightest negative angle on your beloved Glazers, why don’t you start your own blog. You could call it jimbucsgoobers.com.
July 17th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Joe — balance and training camp
July 17th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Or Eric and the Slow squd could start their own post”WeBl**Jon.com
July 17th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
seems like McCoy grew up a Bucs fan and loving football so hopefully he wants to sign a deal bad enough not to hold out even if things get hairy
July 17th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Catain Tim,
Thank you for continuing to demonstrate who the true “haters” are on Joebucsfan.com.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
It all depends on Sams deal. High or low, it will dictate what we do with Gerald. There better not be a holdout because we keep hearing how he is a high character guy. Assuming thats true, if there is a holdout that means its the bucs being cheap and then we will know that money is infact an issue. But our recent history is good signing draft picks, i expect everything to be smooth.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Eric,
lightning’s post is just like the capt’s, so whats the problem? Is it because the bug kept it PG? Just curious.
July 17th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
No problems here sir, just pointing out that Captain Tim seems to have gotten off on a somewhat disgusting pattern.
But, I am sure it is all in good fun.
July 17th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Love it, anger and discontent among the masses over an article about our #3 overall DT, the guy who will get the big guaranteed contract that many here said the Glazers would never pay. What happened to the Bucs trading down to avoid having to pay a #3 overall?? Where are all the people who made that claim?
Waiting . . .
Waiting . . .
Crickets.
July 17th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
@JimBuc, “…anger and discontent among the masses over an article about our #3 overall DT…”
You’re just trying to stir the pot to get someone riled up. I don’t see any anger, except the obscene comment made by Capt.Tim that has absolutely nothing to do with the article.
A good exterminator will take care of that cricket problem you’ve got.
July 17th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Ah,I agree! It’s horrible to be insulting to people you don’t even know! The name calling, the insults! You know the ones- “radio, idiot, moron, cheap, Dumbasses”. All the the ones the “slow squad” constantly throw at The Bucs ownership and management! Yet if someone hurts yer Lil feelings, ya run crying! I actually spent my first few weeks here sticking to the topics. But that’s a rule none of you stick to! Disagreeing with decissions made lately is one thing, but All I read here is morons calling names and guaranteeing failure! Quick to insult everyone else, quicker ta cry when someone calls you on! Did I hurt yer Lil feelings? Who cares, grow up, you guys are worse than a buncha women, and it makes me nauseous.
July 17th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
Louie — weren’t you one of those that said the Bucs would trade down rather than draft McCoy?
July 17th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
That’s the irritating part about the “slow Squad”, they are so SURE about everything they say, yet they are always wrong! “the Bucs won’t draft McCoy, too expensive”,” they won’t sign any FAs”, etc, Etc. Most of the fans talk about what could happen, or what we hope will happen. The haters always think they KNOW the future! How many of you haters picked New Orleans to win the SuperBowl? None of you. Vegas had them 25-1, and those guys are the “experts”, and they didn’t get. And neither did any of you! No one Knows. Until it happens, it’s guess work. I remember watching Jimmy Johnson his first year. Tons of mistakes, everyone screaming he couldn’t coach in the Pros.they were wrong too. Freeman could be the worst Qb in history this year, and we don’t win a game. OR he could be the second coming of Bradshaw, and we win 10. None of us know. But I do know this, all the haters predicted doom are not Buc Fans. And your repeatedly be wrong proves you don’t know squat about football! So save your “knowledge” and “predictions” until we actually see what this team is about! And you can stick yer ignorant insults up yer porthole! And for those of you in love with our former.500 ball coach- go kiss his Mast. But quit whining about it all the time. It’s a friggin game, for Gods sake.not something to blame yer entire failed lives on!!
July 17th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
To all the kool-aid boys
Does it matter who said what? Check this out for your “money is no object Glazers” Seems the “Franchise QB is worth less than Clayton!;
Freeman’s contract called for him to receive $10.245 million guaranteed and offers him a chance to earn another $10 million in incentives. He is slated to earn $395,000 in base pay this year.
The remainder of Freeman’s contract calls for him to earn base salaries of $740,000 in 2011, $1.085 million in 2012 and $1.43 million in 2013. Freeman will first be eligible for free agency in the spring of 2014.
The bottom line is that the top picks are not signed. Penn s not signed. Raheem the Dream went 3-13 last year. And it’s doubtful that the Bucs will surpass that wonderful record again this year! So keep drinking that kool-aid and spend all that money on tickets to the beat down!
July 17th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
@ tampa2
“The remainder of Freeman’s contract calls for him to earn base salaries of $740,000 in 2011, $1.085 million in 2012 and $1.43 million in 2013. Freeman will first be eligible for free agency in the spring of 2014.”
If this was the NBA or MLB I’d get understand the argument that I think you’re trying to make (the Bucs are paying the franchise QB less than Clayhands) but NFL contracts are basically a series of one-year deals. He’ll renegotiate way before 2014 if he kills it in the next year or two. All this is a little nudge from the organization telling Josh, “Hey, keep up the good work but you’ve still got a lot to prove.”
“The bottom line is that the top picks are not signed.”
Uhh, NOBODY’S top picks are signed ANYWHERE. Until Bradford’s deal comes in the 1st round market won’t be set. The Bucs actually took a bit of a gamble by signing Mike Williams as early as they did because the market around him was particularly set in stone.
“Penn s not signed.”
Dude has a tender waiting on him to sign for nearly 3 million. That’s not exactly chump change for a dude who’s never made a Pro Bowl, an All-Pro team or has the “aesthetic shortcomings” he has.
“Raheem the Dream went 3-13 last year.”
So did Peyton Manning in his 1st…and 2nd year in the league.
July 17th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
What was Jimmy Johnson’s record his first year? Again , Tampa2 , your arguments prove only that you know nothing about fooball! Again the clueless predict doom. Idiot
July 18th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Tampa2 — it’s no wonder you believe the Madoff story. You are not the brightest bulb. That post was pathetic
July 18th, 2010 at 6:38 am
At least, Jimbuc, I believe in facts, not some mindless 75 posts per article asking everyone to answer some endless drivel question that means nothing to no one but Jimbuc. Is is what it is, jimmyboy. The Bucs sucked under this regime last year. And they will suck again this year!
There are 3 facts you cannot deny. 1) The Glazer boys are tightwads from hell when it comes to the Bucs. 2) Morris is “not” an NFL Head Coach.
And 3) While Jimbuc calls someone an idiot, he does it while writing 75 times an article trying to justify #’s 1 & 2. So who is the real idiot, jimmyboy? Think about that while you are sitting in the sun trying to lap up the sweat off of Raheem’s stones while our team gets pounded this year.
July 18th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Well, Tampa two, let me take swing at it. I tend ta waste a Lil less time.1) the Grudens canned People for NOT developing a young expensive QB and young talent. The team payroll plummeted foam top ten to the bottom because of signing OLD, OVER THE HILL players, who cost less. The Glazers hated this dead end approach! After several warnings, the fired people to change this approach! The Glazers , contrary to the B.S. Posted here, are very demanding owners- ask Dungy! You either have a plan to be fighting for the Superbowl-CONSISTANTLY!- or they can your ass! That is the “fact” that is always overlooked here.2) Raheem is an NFL head coach – He is the Bucs head coach. He became their head coach because of several factors. He did an amazing job in straightening out our secondary. He has shown great ability to coach and develop young talent. He was Monte Kiffin’s pick as the best of his “disciples” to improve upon our legendary defense. He was the players choice, and has their full support and endorsement. They played very hard for him last year. In the Modern NFL, getting rich, jaded players to “buy in” and commit to your plan is half the battle- he’s got that. Did he make rookie mistakes, oh yeah! More than most rookie head coaches? Probably not- I Remember HOF’er Jimmy Johnson’s 1st year being rediculed much more frequently. Is Raheem the answer at head coach? That depends on the Question? Is he here to win the Superbowl? Or are we reliving the Dungy era? – draft and develop young players, build a strong Core! Then bring in a Gunslinger to grab the brass ring? We don’t know after one year. We will know more after two years.3) don’t know- don’t care. But here’s a question for you- what would lead you to think you know more about the NFL than Billionaire owners and Millionaire Coaches? I mean, really? What qualifies YOU to decide who is an NFL coach, or Who isn’t? Watching footbal on
July 18th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Damn it! – watching football on TV? Figuring out why people do things is part of my job, and trying to figure you out. Are you a fan, truly worried about the team, and listening to the idiots here? Eric and Thomas don’t care about actuall football, their intrest is motivated strictly by Mancrushes(Gruden, Brandon Marshall, Bill Cowher), which obviously is not the way to build a team. Mushmouth hates all things- due to failed marriages and failed life. Or are you like Patrick, he truly is delusional , and really believes he’s smarter than EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE. Either way, when you state ” there are three facts you cannot deny!” and then list your Opinions( which you would have to be a moron to believe , anyway), there is a defined mental and/ or intelligence problem there of some significance
July 18th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Tampa2 said “At least, Jimbuc, I believe in facts”
ROFLMAO . . . . . like the Madoff story. 🙂
July 19th, 2010 at 5:40 am
@Capt. Tim
Man, I’m surprised they let you out of the mental institution. You’re nuts!