Interesting How Ex-Bucs Coaches Lose Tongues
May 27th, 2010
Joe finds this amusing bordering on comical how otherwise chatty Bucs coaches suddenly lose the gift of gab when they leave the Tampa Bay area.
Chucky can spout utter nonsense on BSPN — like how Bill Callahan was the best player’s coach he ever had for an assistant — but when it comes to the Bucs, Chucky becomes a mute. Not even when Joe spoke to Chucky in person would Chucky talk about the Bucs.
Last year, when Raheem the Dream (finally) had his fill of the horrid Jim Bates Experiment, the Bucs defrocked defensive coordinator, always willing to chat, suddenly clammed up. Not even good guy Rock Riley, after catching Bates trying to escape a fast food joint, could coerce Bates into talking.
Now add former offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski to the list. Seems as though Jagodzinski, caught by Bucs beat writer eye-RAH! Kaufman of the Tampa Tribune, offered no more insight into his former team than has Chucky or Bates, so Kaufman wrote on the TBO.com Bucs Twitter feed.
Reached out to Jeff Jagodzinski for his take on his brief Buc tenure, but the short-lived OC declined to give his side of the story.
Joe could sniff this out from across the Bay, even with a head cold.
Team Glazer doesn’t want former employees discussing the team. And the proverbial hammer hanging over their ex-employees’ heads is their contract.
“Wanna get paid? Then shut the f’ up.”
Call it a six-figure muzzle.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
I wonder if they will talk once their contract expires? I hope! I’d love to hear the real story — or at least their side of things.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Add Bruce Allen and Doug Williams and Monte Kiffin to the quiet ones.
I wonder if it is a payoff or if they are following the unwritten NFL rule to keep quiet if you ever want another job.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
Eric:
Interesting you would mention Monte. He crossed Joe’s mind too. It’s not like he’s hiding either, unlike Bates or Jagodzinski. Unlike the latter two, he resigned, he wasn’t fire.
Bruce Allen is a good example as well. He had a weekly spot on NFL Radio last year and only rarely would he speak in specifics about the Bucs.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
I don’t think it is anything specific to the Bucs. I can’t really recall a coach let go from any team really opening up about what went on. Heck even Rick Tochett(sp?) was on with the Big Dog yesterday and he gave him the opportunity to dog the former Lightning owners and he wouldn’t do it.
I think Eric is dead on. Its probably more of an unwritten rule that you don’t bad mouth your former team if you want to get a job again.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
This team is better get their **** together…………..yesterday.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
OOOOOooooooohhhhh those evil, crafty Glazers!!!! Enforcing a contract! What will they come up with next?
Too funny
May 27th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
There is a confidentiality clause in all buccaneer coaching contracts that prohibits negative statements about the club during the life of the contract or a party will be held in breach of the agreement, and the club would have a basis to w/hold pay.
Some lawyers would argue that even speaking negatively after the contract expires could expose you to a suit against you by the club (dependent on the terms of the deal). So these guys may never talk.
Trust me, Jags and Bates didnt take this on the chin b/c they agree with being scapegoated and that the probs were all theirs and not Rah, Doms and the Glazers. But they will take it on the chin for the $.
If you guys believe that the blame justifiably lies w/ Bates and Jags and not their bosses than I am shocked. I suspect one day after Rah and Dom are fired that we will here the truth about what was going on with these bozos.
I still believe the scuttlebut that the beef w/ Jags and Rah started with Rah forcing Lefty in as starter even though he did not earn the job. Think back – Rah kept saying that he had a deadline, and at the deadline Mccown looked better so he kept moving the deadline, and then around the time he named lefty – Jags was fired w/ some laame excuse about not being good at calling plays. Sure . .
May 27th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
“There is a confidentiality clause in all buccaneer coaching contracts that prohibits negative statements about the club during the life of the contract or a party will be held in breach of the agreement, and the club would have a basis to w/hold pay.”
And you know this because????……
May 27th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
I don’t think the emploment contracts have that, but it would be common for a non-disparaging agreement to appear in a settlement agreement.
But, who knows if there was a settlement agreement.
I think Joe stated that Chucky got a lump sum, and if that is true, a settlement agreement would surely have been signed.
But, like many aspects of NFL teams, they don’t fill anybody in on the inner workings.
I would love to hear Chucky’s version.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
…….or maybe these “professionals” have class? Anyone think of that?
May 27th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
eric you are dead wrong.
The confidentiality language in asst coaches contracts was exposed at length during the Matt Walsh (NE tapegate scenario) if you do some research you will find it.
He,walsh was let go by the Pats before spygaate but refused to speak with the media about his dismissal and spygate b/c he was terminated by the Pats with pay due and owing and did not want to compromise it. Sure it/confid. could be part of a settlement but that is too risky for the team.
Once the team lets go all of the $, they have no control to stop the talking other than to then sue but the coach but that is expensive, often fruitless and the damage is done. So the put it in the contract up front, and then remind the employee of it when they terminate him.
THE ONLY REASON THAT BATES AND JAGS ARENT HAMMERING THESE INCOMPETENT BAFOONS IS B/C THEY HAVE OR ARE BEING PAID NOT TO SPEAK!
May 27th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
@thomas
I did the research you suggested and you are correct. It does appear to be done as a routine in the coaching contract.
Interesting, I guess that would explain the amazing silence that runs against human nature.
Thanks for the info Mr. Thomas.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Ohhhhh listen to all the EXPERTS!!!!!!
Maybe the Glazers are just really nice guys and none of these coaches has anything bad to say have you ever thought of that?
Or maybe Joel Glazer told these guys at their exit interview,
“Now you know our man Geido knows where you live…”
May 27th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
I would like to add that I went to Fran Haasch’ Atty website, and she is a total Babe. There is just something inherently hot about a buxom blonde on a Harley. Sue me Honey, please.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Sorry, meant Sue Bee Honey.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Negative Nancy = Sea Hag on Popeye. Skanky
May 27th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
BigMac:
Did u go to her because she is hot? Not sure that that would be an important quality in my lawyer. But she does spend $ with Joe so I understand.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
What a coincidence! Our fired coaches lose their tongues and our head coach has an extremely large and over-active one!
May 28th, 2010 at 7:17 am
BigMacAttack = H.R. Puffinstuff on hamburgler – Gay!
May 28th, 2010 at 7:18 am
Just as coaches dont want to ruin tbeir future job opportunities by badmouthng an organization… the organization itself has a reputation. The Bucs have obviously shown mismanagement decisions that even the national media has well documented… people do talk, just not to the media… so, the players and agents do know about the mess the Tampa Bay Buccaneers organization is in… thats why no one wants to come to Tampa… Matt Bryant and Antonio Bryant sure didnt have anything GOOD to say about Tampa… the Glazers have single handedly ruin this team and delayed knee jerk management and coaching changes have caused us to pay the price… who in there right mind would want to come to this mess… unless they had no other options?
May 28th, 2010 at 8:20 am
It doesn’t pay to badmouth a former employer , because it makes you less attractive to a future employer.
If I’m thinking of hiring a guy , and I look back and see that he aired all the dirty laundry of his former employer , I’m going to look elsewhere so I don’t have to worry about him doing the same thing to me.