Upon Further Review, Joe’s Glad Marshall’s Gone
April 15th, 2010
Regular readers of Joe know that at best, he was lukewarm to the prospect of the Bucs trying to acquire troubled Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall.
Joe knows many of his readers are absolutely in love with Marshall’s skills. Joe was equally turned off by his attitude, his rap sheet, and his magnetism for trouble.
The biggest element that Joe had a great difficulty swallowing is that his team needed one win to make the playoffs last season, and Marshall was in street clothes, suspended for insubordination.
That was beyond a red flag for Joe. One can only imagine just what Marshall had to do for a coach to suspend one of his star players for a must-win game, all but Pearl Harboring any chance of a playoff berth. How can anyone depend on such a malcontent?
That was the second time under two coaches in as many years Marshall was suspended for conduct. Nice.
Yesterday, Joe happened upon a link via Andrew Brandt of the NationalFootballPost.com that documents seven cases of (alleged) domestic abuse by Marshall over the past four years.
Seven cases in four years! That’s seven that are known. How many other times did Marshall (allegedly) slap around a woman that was not reported?
Sick. Disturbing. Disgusting. These words don’t quite capture what Joe felt upon reading this. The link above also has photographic evidence of the injuries Marshall apparently inflicted upon one woman.
$24 million guaranteed for this piece of trash? No thank you.
And Joe thanks Mark Dominik for using some reasoning in not going after this dirtbag. Who knows how long it will be before he’s thrown into a cage for a few months, or worse, something truly awful happens to another victim that can’t easily be brushed off.
In comparison, blunt smoking Santanio Holmes is an angel. What helmet-wielding, cabbie-punching Aqib Talib has done is simply child’s play.
And no, Joe hasn’t yet touched upon how Marshall’s posse ignited a riot that led to a gunfight that left one of his Broncos teammates, Darrent Williams, dead.
No, this guy Marshall is a piece of trash. Joe is relieved he will soon be terrorizing South Beach, not Clearwater Beach.
April 15th, 2010 at 8:46 am
Finally! An article with truth and substance that validates a solid move, or non-move in this instance, that this organization has made.
Class act Bucs!!!! I for one am grateful and proud.
As I have stated on previous post, one south beach club away from being a waist of two 2nd round picks and 24 mil in guaranteed monies! Way to go Tuna!
April 15th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Uh oh. You better run and hide Joe. Get ready for the name calling and the repeated claims that the Bucs failure to get Marshall was all about money.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
JimBuc:
Joe was expecting a much harsher response. He’s still bracing for it.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Agreed Joe. As badly as the Bucs NEED a proven receiver, this piece of s*it isn’t the answer.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:01 am
Joe, Marshall was injured and couldn’t play for the last game. Then he was suspended by McDaniels in a completely irrelevant move as Marshall wasn’t suiting up anyway.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:07 am
It,s to bad this guy is such a piece of shat off the field.
The Bucs sure need a player with his talent,but this thug
is a head case.Have to agree Joe,this guy’s a cancer.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Joe,
With no Marhsall, which WR would you like to Bucs to pick-up in the 2nd round or later? Assume Bryant and Thomas are off the board.
I understand your misgivings about Marshall but it’s a risk/reward scenario, as is the case with most players of his age and caliber that suddenly become available. I agree the risk was too high in this case, but if the price were a little lower, I probably would’ve been ok with taking a chance on that.
Here’s a fun theory for you; knowing the relative weakness of this year’s FA class and the strength of the Draft class and the fact that next year (assuming there is football next year), that will be reversed, considering the number of RFAs that will become UFAs, plus the regular 4 yr players that will become UFAs, there should be a high number of good relatively young free agents available. Plus if there is a salary cap re-instated and the players end up with a smaller slice of the pie, it will be a buyers market. So what if the brain trust is focusing on this year’s really deep draft, then will be heavily focused on FAs next year? It’s not a bad plan, especially since, in theory, we’ll be at least one step closer to becoming a playoff contender. Granted, I am sure everyone who reads this will take the “I’ll beleive when I see it” stance, heck even I am of that mindset.
Just a thought from a fan who wants to beleive this team has a solid plan for improving.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:27 am
What is the deal with WRs and being an A$$. Seems like a bad attitude is a prerequisite for the position.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Marshall’s issues weren’t a problem for Miami and Parsells. Time will tell, but I’m betting he’ll do well in Miami. …And, the “good guy” Bucs are left with stone-hands Clayton as their franchise receiver. We know how that’s going to work out. Get ready for another top 5 draft pick next year.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:28 am
So let me see if I have this straight.
A couple days ago Joe was pissed that we didnt’ spend a 5th rounder on a guy who is still being investigated for hitting a girl in the face with a class cup, facing a 4 game suspension for drugs, who went on his twitter and both told a fan to kill himself and alluded to him smoking weed…again. But now today Joe is calling Marshall a dirtbag??
The mind reels.
How about a few facts to counteract the vitriol.
Since Marshall’s run ins over domestic violence with one woman who admitted she herself also assaulted him at times, he has gotten married to a totally different woman and there have been no more incidents that anybody knows about. Also Marshall was “suspended” last year because his shithead coach thinks he knows how injured guys are based on his bachelors degree in douchebaggery. Funny because Marshall couldn’t have played anyway according to him because of his hamstring, but his coach McDaniels, who also it seems fell out with everybody’s angel Tom Brady for almost a month and wasn’t on speaking terms while still with the Patriots, felt like he should suspend the guy to “make an example”. I’d like for you to go back and look up the Denver papers and see how many of them called out McDaniels for that bitch move rather than Marshall.
Oh and that “Marshall and his boys” inciting a riot? Total bullshit. They guys who shot his teammates were looking for trouble. In fact earlier in the night according to testimony Marshall played peace keeper to intervene when they were starting trouble and bought them drinks and food so they would knock it off. It wasn’t until the party was over and the same guys were STILL starting trouble that he got pissed and got into a VERBAL I repeate VERBAL altercation with those assholes. And you know what? The situation appeared to be squashed and Marshall went to his own vehicle and the murderers STILL decided to shoot up somebody’s limo, which is how Darrent Williams got killed. So to make it seem as if it was all Marshall’s fault isn’t just bullshit, its damn near libelous.
Look I could care less when people decide to get on their high horse and declare somebody a scumbag. I certainly hope the people doing that are squeaky clean in their own home lives but so be it. But what irritates the hell out of me is moral relativism. If Marshall is a dirtbag and he isnt in any legal trouble at the moment then Santonio Holmes who was also accused of domestic violence and is currently in trouble for DAMN sure is also a dirtbag and the fact that he could be had for a lower draft pick shouldn’t change that.
Peace
April 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Just another reason why they should have gone after Anquan Boldin. Inuries aside, how could you not love a tough as nails receiver who is know for being a great locker room guy and did not require top 5 WR money.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Louie:
Miami may — key word there — may be one wide receiver from a run at a Super Bowl when they got Marshall. Do you really believe the Bucs are one stud wide receiver from making a run at a Super Bowl? The comparison isn’t apples and apples.
April 15th, 2010 at 9:51 am
we can take a look at carlton mitchell in the 3rd or 4th, looks to be a BM clone
April 15th, 2010 at 9:55 am
I live in Denver and many people around here are happy this worthless piece of crap is gone and I’m glad the bucs are stickin too the plan let’s not jump to conclusions until after next week
April 15th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Good call Joe! 100% agree.
April 15th, 2010 at 10:06 am
sgw94
Cannot believe you are defending this guy with his rap sheet.
April 15th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Joe,
The Bucs are one dominate WR away from maximizing the development of Josh Freeman. If the team could swap out Clayton for a bonified #1 wideout, I think the rest of the receiving corps would fine (don’t get me wrong, even if that were the case, no one would say we were deep at WR).
This offseason, the focus, per Raheem, was to be all about #5. Improving him and the weapons around him. They have yet to do that, and if anything have gone backwards (with the loss of AB, who is not a true #1, but head and shoulders above anything else we have on our roster).
I want to see the Bucs improve, but haven’t seen anything from the front office that they are really trying. Again, I hope they have a solid plan in place.
April 15th, 2010 at 10:17 am
@Lakeland Bob
I can’t believe you can’t read so I guess we’re even.
April 15th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Unfortunately, there are as many punks in the NFL as there are good guys. Never quite heard a real good explanation as to how Ray Lewis managed to show up at his hotel with blood all over himself in that superbowl double homicide, Sure Ray is an example of an NFL alter boy,NOT.If the Bucs limit themselves to only alter boys they will always be at a competetive disadvantage against the teams that take the approach that if the commish says you can play than you can play for us. By the way last time I checked Jerramy Stevens Tanard Jackson, Aqib Talib all failed their alter boy exam.
April 15th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
@sgw94
I am in total agreement with your post.
It amazes me how people read all sorts of things into arrests, police reports, and charges that are later dismissed in court.
My experience as an attorney is that thinking totally changes when THEY are unfarily charged with something. Domestic violence cases are particulalry susceptible to abuse, by either spouse really. One phone call is all it takes, and an arrest is made.
Happens all day long every day, whether it be NFL players, Doctors, lawyers, media members, whoever.
Marshalls “brush ins” with the law are so minor, and went unproven, its hard to fathom the conclusions drawn about a someone being a “scumbag”, especially by a journalist.
I thought they tried to look at both sides of a story.
April 15th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
If anybody cared to hear from the actual “scumbag”, to give things a little balance. Looks like the Dolphins made a lot of effort to look into the guy, unlike our Bucs.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/miami-dolphins/09000d5d8178cce9/Grand-Marshall
April 15th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I too totally agree with you sgw94! I don’t see the problem with having play makers like that on our team. Look I don’t want to hear the Glazers/Bucs talk about morality and/or character…..hmmm, I guess they forgot all about wife beater Michael Pittman which they had no problem bringing to the team to help them win a super bowl. I guess they also forgot about the RAPIST Jeremy Stevens that they allowed on the team that is still here. What about dumb asses heckle and jeckle, a.k.a. Aqib Talib and Tanard Jackson. One dumb ass can’t keep his hands to himself and thinks he’s a tough guy going around punching cab drivers and former team mates( RB Cory Boyd when they were rookies ). Then there’s DUMBER ASS Tanard Jackson that can’t put the chronic down long enough to get clean and get ready for the up coming season! So PLEASE Buccaneers and all you self righteous, moral ( because none of you have ever sinned or broke the law before ) fans SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!! You’re all hypocrites and suffering from a severe case of full of shitness if you dare say you’re squeaky clean!
April 15th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Whether he was convicted of any of the crimes he’s been accused of or not, this guy finds himself in the wrong place at the wrong time entirely too much. It’s a shame because he is one hell of a WR, but he’s already on a short leash with the NFL and is one or two more screw ups away from being suspended again. Surely not the kind of person that I want to see being the highest paid in history at any position on the field. I’m happy we weren’t the team to give him that money.
April 16th, 2010 at 1:25 am
It is not a question as to whether Marshall was guilty or innocent, it is a question of employment and, most importantly, team development. Not sure why so many people seem to think that a team is equal to the sum of its parts. Like you can plug any player in at any time. Teams do not work like that, at least not successfult teams