Quit “Ragging” On The Glazers And Raheem!
March 24th, 2010
Believe it or not, there is actually a Bucs fan out there who sees the wisdom of Mark Dominik’s ways and thinks Team Glazer is being trashed unfairly.
Lodging a question in a Bucs question-and-answer format on TBO.com, a Bucs fan has had it with all the nitpicking lodged at Dominik and the men who cut his paychecks.
Q: I read a lot of the recent questions and disagree with all the ragging of the owners and coaches. I remember the three games we won last year and how good our Bucs looked doing it. It was a first-year coach and general manager and as soon as Raheem took over defense I think that side of the ball improved greatly. I say quit jumping off the bandwagon and have some faith. If they go 9-7 this year or even 8-8 that will be great. Reggie brown will be fine and I’m hoping for a Dez Bryant in the draft?
Kevin, Tampa
A: You are one of the few patient fans we’ve heard from. You’re also one of the few who seems to understand exactly what’s going on at One Buc. The Bucs haven’t given up on winning and they’ve haven’t gone cheap. They’re just tearing down an old team and rebuilding it. That takes time. Everyone wants instant success, but that’s hard to find. The Bucs are trying to build a team that will be in the running for a Super Bowl – not just the playoffs – every year for the next 10-12 years. It takes time to build all the pieces. As you say, they won’t get there this year, but if they win 6-8 games it will be a sign they’re on the right track. Bottom line: sometimes you have to take a step backward to take two steps forward.
— Woody Cummings
Joe has said it before and will say it again: NFL teams are building a war chest as they prepare to go to the mattresses next season when there likely will be a lockout. Joe firmly believes this is the elephant in the room many, many others, for reasons unknown, seem to ignore.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
I am sick and tired of this tired line
“The Bucs are trying to build a team that will be in the running for a Super Bowl – not just the playoffs – every year for the next 10-12 years.”
HORSE SH!T
March 24th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Joe Bucs Fan and Woody Cummings have sipped the last sip of Kool Aid. If they think that the Culverhouse Brothers have any intention of building a winner again…Well, let’s just say that I know a leprachaun with some gold.
Wake up you gullible doofuses!
March 24th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Joe,
I’m not sure if you’ve done it intentionally, but your recent articles do an amazing job of whipping up the negative fan base that seems to make up the vocal majority of your community. By writing in a manner that makes it almost seem like the Bucs have a clue what they’re doing, you only galvanize the negativity that thrives in the responses. I’m sure that gets you great action from your sponsors.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Sorry Joe…not buying into what you and Woody are pitching. I am old enough to have seen rebuilding before in the NFL. Haven’t seen anything quite as drastic as whats going on here insofar as excluding and purging veteran talent from your roster in an attempt to improve. Fans shouldnt have to wait multiple seasons for a competitive product. Rebuilding includes a blend of veterans and young players and gradually drafting replacements for the aging veterans. I firmly believe this extreme, long term rebuilding effort is more a product of the Glazers financial condition as opposed to a strongly held philosophy on the part of the Glazers as to how to build a successful sports franchise.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
How do you get to the parallel universe that Woody and Kevin are in? I have yet to figure out how to get there, but I’m assuming it requires massive quantities of Cabrew and various mind altering drugs.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Joe here,
Fellas, not pitching anything here. Not sure where the disconnect is. This is simply a post that regurgitates a Q & A on TBO.com between a fan and a beat writer.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Roy Cummings is a moron. Were the Glazer’s building a winner when Gruden & Allen were here and they forced them to go bargain basement shopping as well?
March 24th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Joe here,
CharlieB — you give Joe way too much credit for having such intricate thoughts and smoke screen like thinking. It’s just not the way it is.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Louie:
Rachel Watson helps.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
I absolutely agree. Building through the draft is how they had their first run of success with Sapp, Lynch, Barber, Brooks, etc…
They do need SOME free agents though and dumping Brooks’ leadership was a big mistake.
That said, the youth movement is good long term as long as the coaches improve with the players and the core of both are stable.
This draft is extremely important and it is why I have been screaming they need to trade down and get another 2nd and 4th at least.
Quantity rules in the draft. The more picks, the more chance of hitting on some guys that will become starters and they have ALOT of holes to fill.
March 24th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
JAKE said:
“Haven’t seen anything quite as drastic as whats going on here insofar as excluding and purging veteran talent from your roster in an attempt to improve. ”
Take a look at how the Cowboys built their early 1990’s dynasty. They purged all the vets and went with youth. They sucked for 3 years then went on a SB streak (3 out of 4).
Yes the signed vets along the way but not until the youth built the core of the team.
Yes I also realize free agency wasn’t the same then, but the example still stands.
March 24th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
If the Chicago Bears are building a war chest they sure are going about it a funny way.
March 24th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Tom:
The Bears are one of the few teams spending, basically because the front office has been put on notice.
Lovie apparently doesn’t like his job it seems. He won’t let Devin Hester return kickoffs. To quote Beavis, “What a dumbass.”
March 24th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
I am tired of people calling other fans off and on fans .let me give some bottom lines They resinged Micheal Clayton he went out with 16 catches there is no #1 or #2 Recviver. Dont understand how they can pass on a known knuckle head like Marshall but trade for Winslow and draft Talib who was bust for smoking weed, fights players coaches and taxi cab drivers
March 24th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Da Bears have no draft picks, so they should be active in FA. Oh yeah thanks Bears for that #2 pick.
March 24th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
There is not going to be a lock out. That is all CYA bull and pure posturing and negotiations.
Remember what happened to baseball when they did it? Too much money to lose for that to happen, especially in this economy.
I do agree that if the bucs went 9-7 or 8-8 most would be happy. What is very disturbing is that some, including the Glazers, will accept another 3-13 fiasco.
Since when does it take years to turn around an NFL team? Look at the Falcons. They were totally down and out and had lost Vick, yet turned it on a dime. Why can’t we do that? Were they soooooooooo much better than the bucs when Smith tok over?
March 24th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RahDomDaBes, DAve and Joe – nice brains
Mike , Jake, JS – nice eggplants
How do you knuckle heads not comprehend what they are trying to do? Do you not understand what rebuilding means. If you guys had it your way you’d have Sapp, Brooks, Lynch and Alstot still starting making 10 million a peice annually.
Everything about contract negotations centrs on value. Bucs would keep these star veterans on the team if they didn’t want the same compensation as when they were pro bowlers. Do you think the Buc’s should have re signed Brooks to a long term deal and pay him like one of the top LB in the league? Kellen Winsloww is the highest paid TE in the league. Faine was the highest paid C in the league. Why? Because their worth it.
Look at the Chargers letting Tomlinson go, Eagles letting Westbrook go, Buffalo letting Owens go. Why? becuase the value is’nt there for what these guys want in compensation.
The Bucs payroll is low becuase they have alot of youthful players. Do you not get this? Why do you think the Colts and Patriots payrolls are high? Uh
Manning and Brady?
Hey Js. Gruden and Allen had to shop in the bargain basement becuase the Bucs were in CAP hell becuase of all the money they spent on contracts, especially free agents to take them to the Super Bowl.
God I wish you idiots would shut th F___k up. Do you honestly think you’re smarter and more knowledgable when it comes to football than the Bucs front office and Coaches?
Now, I will say this. I agree with the plan of building through the draft and adding free agents later to take us to the Championship. However, This all works if Dominik and Morris pick the right guys.
No one will know unitl 2012. If they did’nt pick the right draft picks then I will be wanting their heads on a pike. We just have to be patient.
March 24th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Right on!! Maddog lets be real here we where not the best team in the NFL the last several seasons under Gruden! no Dis to john he did a good job with what we had in house…. but change was needed it took LOTS out our club to get him in Tampa or have we forgotten???? 2 FIRST 2 SECONDS a few 3RDS thats a big big chunk of good players (you hope)! And with the cap space we DID NOT have we did what we could with RETREADS and we did ok… but to win and win on a constant basis you need young players.. it never changes it will always be this way.
Professional Football is a young mans game not a place to grow old…
March 24th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
“Everyone wants instant success, but that’s hard to find.”
I don’t care about that. I just wanna get laid 3 times a week. Football is just the best thing when you can’t get laid.