Bucs Likely To “Allow” Raheem, Dominik To Stay
December 31st, 2009
Many Bucs fans — seemingly unlike those in other cities with struggling first-year coaches like St. Louis and Detroit — have been near-apoplectic since Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network broke a story that the Bucs (allegedly) reached out to Super Bowl-winning coach Bill Cowher.
Some of these same Bucs fans seem so unnerved at the thought the Bucs may pass on Cowher that they are ready to geld themselves.
However, one seemingly reasoned Bucs fan, in a TBO.com question-and-answer piece, e-mailed Woody Cummings of the Tampa Tribune to ask if Bryan and Joel succumbed to Bucs fans pleas and hire Cowher, would Bryan and Joel be destroying their plans to rebuild from within.
Cummings agreed with the premise.
Q: After reading comments regarding Raheem Morris and Mark Dominik being here next year, I thought I’d bring up this point. Morris was brought up from position coach to head coach by owners who not only knew what they were getting in terms of experience, but also to facilitate a cleaning house/ rebuilding effort. Would Cowher, Shanahan, et al, realistically have done so great that they would have gotten us deep into the playoffs this year? Isn’t that the reason ownership fired Gruden and Allen because we were hovering at mediocrity? Just like any rookie in any business mistakes will be made and adjustments are required on the fly. How could ownership justify firing Dom and Morris after only one season? Foundations seem to be being built.
Brian Burg, Fort MyersA:I believe you make an excellent point. The Bucs knew they had to alter the structure of the team and make it younger. In their opinion, only a coach like Morris and a general manager like Dominik would do that. I also have to believe that they knew this would be a lean year in terms of results and that both Dominik and Morris would need time to develop. No one realistically expects a rookie quarterback to lead his team to the playoffs his first year. No one realistically expects a rookie head coach or GM to lead a young team to the playoffs either. The plan for this year was to build a foundation for the future. The Bucs have done a decent job there, it seems, so no one should be surprised if Dominik and Morris are allowed at least another year to continue doing the job their owners hired them to do.
— Roy Cummings
Joe believes it would be awfully hasty of Bryan and Joel, or an act of desperation, to toss Raheem the Dream overboard in order to land Cowher.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Joe, do you just make stuff up or what? Are you the next Dan Sileo? Where do you come up with the title for your article based on the content of the article itself?
December 31st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Joe here,
Jake, have a clue, please.
The headline uses quotes around the word “Allow,” which is the word Tampa Trib writer Roy Cummings uses to express the sentiment of the headline.
It’s really journalism 101 to use such a headline. Nothing is made up.
If there’s anything here that is made up and not sourced, Joe would be happy to send you a gift certificate to the restaurant of your choice.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Joe, I think what Jake is saying is that you put a lot of emphasis on the word “Allow”, but that’s not really the emphasis of the article. You also learn in journalism 101 that you can change the meaning of a sentence by placing emphasis on different words.
I’m not going to lose a lot of sleep if Morris keeps his job this year, but the Glazers might because keeping him will do nothing for season ticket sales. Bringing Cowher in would create instant excitement and stimulate season ticket sales.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Joe wrote, “Joe believes it would be awfully hasty of Bryan and Joel, or an act of desperation, to toss Raheem the Dream overboard in order to land Cowher.”
I guess it was prudent long thought out discussions that lead Bryan and Joel to toss Chucky for Radio?
NOT!
December 31st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Joe here,
Louie – Again, the quotes are not for emphasis, they are to indicate that they are quoted words from a souce other than Joe. And that conforms to traditional journalism standards.
Trust Joe, whose founders have spent 30+ years in the journalism profession, about half for the Tampa Tribune.
December 31st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Joe here,
Mr. Lucky — Knew that line would piss you off. I think you’ll enjoy the noon post.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Joe. Happy New Year. Despite our disagreement regarding the title to this article, I enjoy reading your articles!
December 31st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Do u honestly think if cowher and or shannahan where able to coach last year do u think raheem and dominic would of ben hired cuz I don’t think they would of been and I don’t honestly expect the bucs to win many more games next year and plus there goin to have another losing season next year.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Meh to Bill Cowher. Stay the course with Raheem!
December 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Joe here,
Jake, Happy New Year to you to. Just always have to defend ourselves around here when it comes to the quality of the work. We’re a little too sensitive maybe about that.
Glad to have you as a reader! Keep coming back. Tell a friend. The season never ends on JoeBucsFan.com
December 31st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Did the owners not “ask” fans, players, coaches etc for imput on Chucky before they let him go ?? They knew that Rah and Dom were young. Dom has been around the organization for 14 or 15 years and the owners must trust him to select him for the G.M. job. I think they asked him to do the work that Bruce and Chucky would not do and that is to get young and build for the future. Keep them both and we will all be surprised when the results next year a good.
December 31st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Joe do u honestly think raheem can get the job done cuz he can’t. Raheem should be demoted and cowher brought in and if it doesn’t happen I hope I’m wrong but the bucs will have a 4-12 or 5-11 season or worse
December 31st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Joe I cant believe I have been agreeing with you so much lately.
The Glazers didn’t get where they are by making hasty decisions. Unlike all of us crazy fans who think of the team in terms of our hearts this team is a business to them. If they had a plan for Raheem and Dominick I’m sure it took into account the possiblity of having a bad season this year. Any good business plan prepares for all possibilities good or bad. You don’t just scrap the plans because of a little adversity. Rebuilding doesn’t happen over night.
For crying out loud even Ray Perkins got almost four years and we cant even give this guy two?
Then again firing them after a year could have been the plan to begin with.
Also in the spirit of agreeing with you I’m going to pick up some Caybrew on the way home tonight. It had better be good.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
It’s very perplexing when fans such as ourselves think we actually can call the number of wins for our team next year. Aside from the draft, free agency, trades and camp not even happening yet. There is no possible way even the best of fan knows how a season is going to play out 8 months from now. Or better yet, I love it when we complain about scheme or half time adjustments, like we’re sitting on our couch with Gruden and the playbook. We cant tell the difference between a really good route or blown coverage.
December 31st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
My expectations were pretty low I thought we could go 6-10 and we didn’t even come close we will be lucky to get 6 next year with this clown.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
The thing that gets me is that there was no motivation by the players to winn it was only when the coaches job is on the line do they show up I don’t expect the bucs to win sunday I hope I’m wrong. But I doubt it