The QB Blast: Maybe Jags Got Best Deal Of 2009
September 30th, 2009
By JEFF CARLSONJoeBucsFan.com analyst
I’m not here to pile on the Bucs.
I played on teams that finished 6-10 and 3-13 and know the pain and misery that brings. Those years were under Hugh Culverhouse without a salary cap and that was supposed to even things up a little bit.
Unfortunately, the current Bucs will compete with those teams unless they improve significantly, and I don’t think that is on the horizon, although starting Josh Johnson gives them new hope.
This team is undisciplined in all phases right now. Raheem Morris’ interviews and press conferences are growing more rambling, incoherent and contradictory.
Jeff Jagodzinski, the offensive coordinator, was fired for not being detail-oriented enough. What are we to make of the rest of the coaching staff after Sunday’s performance? The Giants game was the third straight with a complete lack of attention to any detail whatsoever.
Maybe “Jags” got the best deal of the year, getting out before he could take the blame for this debacle.
Now the Bucs turn to Johnson (a less experienced version of Luke McCown) as their starter after three games and hearing Raheem explain the reasoning behind the change was just sad.
We wanted to hope for the best for this team and for this coach, but the QB choice this preseason wasn’t a hard one and he messed that up.
I think this first Josh may be a better long-term choice than the one eventually coming somewhere later this season, but that is a much tougher one to see in my crystal ball.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Not for nothing, but this whole post is negative.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:27 am
What a bunch of softies here. The Bucs have lost seven in a row, fired their Super Bowl winning coach, and are stuck with questionable talent on the field and in the front office and coaching booth. These are the worst of times. There’s no way around it.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:57 am
KennyL , you didn’t mention that ownership is also broke…
September 30th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Luke McCowan was the logical choice (even if only to keep as insurance) Leftwich hasn’t ever succeded anywhere but college, he’s too slow afoot and throwing mechanics suck, and although the heart of a lion, not the smarts to read defenses quickly or accurately. Lot’s of folks are thinking it and I haven’t seen it said…but, could it have been racially motivated to get rid of McCowan? Ok there it’s said… BTW Kenny you could have coached the BUcs to that same Super Bowl victory if you’d know the opposing playbook like Gruden.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
I’m not a huge fan of Leftwich, but Luke McCown was 1-6 as a starter. Lefty had a winning record as a starter. I think the racially motivated stuff is horseshit. No one says anything when there are three white QBs on the roster. Leftwich had a better record as a starter than McCown and both Josh Freeman and Josh Johnson had higher potentials than McCown did. Thus, McCown was traded. The move was entirely logical. You can make an argument against Leftwich, too, but to suggest it was racially motivated because you don’t agree with the decision is narrow-minded.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Clarkh:
And remember McCown’s lone win was an absolute gift from Sean Payton.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Yeah, it’s extremely logical to have a starting quarterback, who sucks, and leave yourself two backup’s who’ve never started an NFL game
September 30th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
It wasn’t Racial it was stupid. Stupidity and stubbornness have motivated all of the moves by this team this year.
September 30th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I rememebr when we thought Jeff was the savior for the Bucs…I also remember his debut…I think he completed less than ten passes and threw a bunch of picks. 27-0 if I remember correctly. Yet Joe still lets him spew his negativity on this site.
September 30th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Hey pete strauss you say that the raiders were still running grudens playbook so he beat them in the superbowl that is pretty stupid cause the raiders could have done the same thing unless you are saying gruden was using dungys playbook just think things through before you say them
September 30th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Gruden changed terms
September 30th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Clarkh, Raheem is not incompetent because he is black. He is just incompetent. There I said it.
September 30th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Bringing in Leftwich was a major fail!
It did nothing but waste time, reps, practice and alienate the fan base with those who wanted this guy or that and it just didn’t pan out. JJ or JF should have been getting those reps.
September 30th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
You are LOST in Iowa… Bill Callahan was still running Gruden’s playbook. He wasn’t smart enough to have his own…that’s why he couldn’t keep a college or pro job. John Lynch told everyone who would listen after the game that they (the Bucs) knew the play’s that were coming. Wake up and smell the coffee moron before criticizing fact not opinion. You can call me out allya want for my opinion but like I said before Kenny or even you (maybe) could have beat Oakland knowing what they were calling (offense and defense).
September 30th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
so gruden left all his plays in oakland and wrote hundereds of new plays for tampa get a clue idiot he was running the same plays in tampa that he ran in oakland so why couldnt the raiders do the same thing you claim the bucs did you are tyhe moron not me
September 30th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
I’m tired of assholes like you undermining the bucs superbowl win with your bullshit comments “they only won because gruden knew the plays” or “gruden won with dungys team” fuck you motherfucker tehy won because they were a great team period!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
You freakin IDIOT I’m not undermining their win I’m diminishing the credit Gruden gets for it …but it’s hard to have a battle of wits with an umarmed man you MORON.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
I’m sure you won’t retort again because with your simpleton mind you’ve probably run out of creative curses you can call someone. I must admit I was wrong before your not LOST in Iowa, your LOST in SPACE. Unfortunately most of it’s between your ears.
October 1st, 2009 at 12:26 am
fuck off now you are backpedaling you clearly stated anyone could have won the game if they knew all the plays which clearly diminishes the entire teams effort, not just grudens role, you fucking asshole
October 1st, 2009 at 12:38 am
perhaps I let my anger get the best of me but you have to realize when you make a statement “that anybody could have won if they knew all the plays” you make it sound like they cheated. It’s like the bucs sucked so bad in the 70’s in the beginning that they never really deserved to win the superbowl the team never gets the respect that it deserves!
October 1st, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Dude , I love the Bucs, hated Gruden, your problem is your so clouded you can’t even read I NEVER said that and you put quotes around it…your the MORON I thought you were to start and I’m done with this idiotic diatribe with you. I’ve got better things to read n do.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
trying to save face, you said anyone could win if they knew the plays dont try to deny it