Mark Dominik Sees Team Glazer Leaning Toward Keeping Dirk Koetter If The Bucs Finish 7-9
December 6th, 2018
What’s in the mind of Team Glazer?
Hats off to former Bucs rock star general manager Mark Dominik for taking Buccaneers fans into the collective mind of Team Glazer — at least trying to — at this crossroads time for the franchise.
The dude worked for the Bucs for nearly 20 years and rose to the GM chair in 2009, before he was booted after five seasons. The man has deep, deep knowledge of the rather secretive operations inside the walls of One Buc Palace.
And Joe will confidently say Dominik has no axe to grind with Team Glazer. In fact, seconds prior to Joe’s scheduled meeting with Team Glazer at the NFL Owners Meetings in Orlando this year, Dominik asked Joe if it would be cool to jump ahead of Joe for a few minutes so he could say a private hello to Team Glazer. Joe had no problem with that.
Today on WDAE-AM 620, Dominik was talking Team Glazer and the thin ice under the Dirk Koetter/Jason Licht regime.
“I think they’re wide open,” Dominik said of Team Glazer’s current state of mind toward its leadership team.
The ex-GM thinks no overhaul decision has been made for 2019, and Team Glazer is absolutely evaluating everyone and rooting for a good Bucs finish so they have strong reasons to maintain the status quo.
“The Glazers, I don’t think they want change in any stretch,” Dominik said. “I think they’d really like to be able to keep everything status quo, and show that you can, you know, build a football team and all that stuff and stay with it. But I think that they are understanding that if changes have to be made, they’ll do it. They obviously made a lot of tough calls over the years. But I think they really would rather stay the course.
“And I think how the Bucs play these last four games, it doesn’t mean they have to make the postseason. I just think they just gotta show that, look, the defense is on track like it’s showing, the offense is coming together; you see what Chris Godwin did this last week, all the stuff we talked about with him as a wide receiver. Just the continuity is important to them. And I know they really, really want that. And I think they’ll lean toward keeping continuity if Coach Koetter and the crew can win a couple more games.”
Very interesting for Joe to hear the passion and emphasis in Dominik’s voice. He really believes there’s a potentialy Tampa Bay survival path for Koetter with a 7-9 record.
Joe can’t imagine that whatsoever, but Dominik’s insight is certainly worth listening to.
If Koetter does stay, Dominik said he could see Koetter pushed to make “little changes versus big changes.”
For those who missed it, last week Dominik dove into how Team Glazer likely would evaluate Jason Licht. Story linked here.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:57 am
Same thing I said. Yesterday I think.
7-9 is good enough to keep Koetter, if certain conditions are met.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:58 am
Dominick also stated that if the Bucs make a move, they have to do so quickly. He stated that the organization waited too long to hire himself and Raheem Morris, and then waited too long to hire Greg Schiano.
December 6th, 2018 at 9:59 am
Dominick is a man who knows the Glazers very well. He knows their desires for the team.
If he were giving his opinion on other matters, I would be more skeptical, but on this, I think his experience with the owners shines through.
If they keep Koetter, they need to take him off the hot seat.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:00 am
I’ve been saying it for weeks. Licht, Koetter, and Winston will return in 2019.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:00 am
I rarely agree with Dominick….(especially his draft picks and FA choices)…..but this time I do.
I seriously believe that the Glazers would love not to make a change…..none of their previous changes have worked out. They can continue to lose without making a change…..or they can lose making a change.
The odds are better that with some improvements in Defensive coaching and some player tweaks that Koetter can eventually win.
You had a suspension……kicking problems……massive turnovers…..a glaring DC error by retaining Smith….and a Defense devastated with injuries.
Retaining Koetter might depend on which two games……if he wins the two home games against division rivals…..maybe he stays.
I’m rooting for him to succeed because rooting for him is rooting for the team.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:01 am
Said it a month ago, we will when one of the next 3 then beat atl who could care less and #3 will look better, the d will look better and dk, jw and duff will all be back and we will sign a few big free agents like we always do and do the same thing next year. 6-10 in 2019!!!!!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 10:06 am
I like Koetter, I think if we had more talent on the defense we would be much better.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:10 am
Only the Glazers would keep a guy that directly cost us 2 seasons of losses. Keeping coaches that would have been fired a year ago- still keeping coaches (Warhop) that should have been gone last year as well-going for FGs or punting in opponents territory with the worst defense in NFL which promptly lost us the game, staying loyal to players that are past their usefulness. If we go 9-7 and make the playoffs- he deserves to stay. If we go 9-7 and miss the playoffs by a game or a 1/2 game, he should be fired- because it will be his stubbornness that cost us 1,2,3 games this year and ultimately will be what kept us out. The only guys I would try to retain is Monken and Buckner-everyone else is replaceable and if the Glazers cleaned everyone out, I would not be sad. We can truly turn this around in one year with good coaching, IMO.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:11 am
“Kobe Faker has said numerous times we are the Cincinnati Bengals of the south but worse with no playoff games.
You want Stability? What does Stability actually really do? Marvin Lewis was with the Cincinnati Bengals for 16 years”
“Fire Klueless Koetter, Im too old and dont have to long to live”
The Buc Realist
December 6th, 2018 at 10:14 am
this is BS….im not buying a word from dom…..lol….he’s been wrong so many times he reminds me of @realist….lol…
when is it ever going to be about the entire season and not just winning 2 of the last 4 games….lol….
we kept dirk last year after he underachieved while some teams that made the playoffs fired coaches……
the packers fired mike, a coach who won them a SB after he underachieved 2years in a row……
we fired a coach who improved by 4games and still missed the playoffs while some are saying dirk should be retained after he would only improve by 2games and still miss the playoffs….lol….
i swear, this organization and some of its fans are comical…..lol….they are satisfied with losing records…..lol…we could be 1-13 and folks would say if dirk wins out he deserves to stay…..
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 10:15 am
Ive always been on the Glazers side. Even though its clear they dont have much football savy, I always believed they were doing whatever they could to win. Keeping a mediocre coach for the sake of “continuity” would change my mind. Koeter isnt HC material. This is easy to see. He’ll never be more than a win 1 lose 3 or 4 in a row kind of coach. The fans deserve better. I’d rather take a chance on an unknown. I’d much rather lose games continuing to try to find a great coach than be 6-10 every year with a bum coach for continuity.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:18 am
Exactly 813
If we are going to lose at least lets lose while taking a chance on finding a great coach than settling for mediocre results with a bum coach for the sake of “continuity”. Im convinced a lot of these fans dont know what they are watching most of the time. Koeter has made far to many mistakes to retain. The fans deserve better!
December 6th, 2018 at 10:21 am
7-9 is good enough?? Pftt no way man. Medicore at best.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:21 am
So Dom thinks the Glazers are just like the fans. Lose a couple games and their Koetter confidence goes down, win a couple games and their confidence goes up.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:31 am
I like the idea of continuity….. The NFL owners have a tendency to axe HC’s and GM’s way too quickly. Usually when you do a regime change it sets everything back a couple of years. Everyone learns a new system… then we have to get rid of these guys because they don’t fit the system… blah blah blah. I will say I was very unhappy that Koetter kept Mike Smith so long. And I wasn’t happy when he took over play calling in the Washington game. But I’m also open minded about Koetter depending how he finishes.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:34 am
Koetter is the worst head coach in the NFL. He’s a good coordinator but has no idea how to run a team.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:37 am
“Mark Dominik ex-GM presently has the same job as Kobe Faker..
posting at JBF website…
Should i say more”
Kobe Faker
December 6th, 2018 at 10:41 am
Rock Star is correct.
This Sunday is key because the Saints really have nothing to play for standings wise, and the bucs are desperate.
The Ravens and Cowboys are different matters. But the bucs can beat the falcons.
7-9 is within reach.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:45 am
Not sure what 813 is blabbering on about but he’s wrong. So many holes in your logic, it’s comical.
Fact is Dirk has actually made huge changes to things that he wasn’t comfortable with and all of them have been working out. Firing his bff, giving up playcalling, putting Jameis back in (even though he shouldn’t have been taken out), etc. Fact is we have the #1 offense. Our defense has been top 5 the last 3 weeks. We finally found a kicker. Nearly everything about our game has improved. If we hire a new guy, same thing will happen. Changes will lead to bumps in the road and adversity. Our fans will be inpatient and urge ownership to make another change sooner than later. Then it starts again.
Our team is still playing for this guy very well even when at one point the season was looking over. If we win 2 or more then it’s hard to start over considering the strong finish.
I may be in the minority but I like Dirk and would be happy retaining him if he finished strong and the team plays with passion. Cuz it’s evident they like him.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:46 am
If 7-9 was the standard for keeping coaches and GMs Dominic would STILL have been fired!!!! HONESTLY JOE YOU LOSING ALLL CREDIBILITY BECAUSE YOU KEEP SITING THIS FAILURE AS A SOURCE!!! What a joke!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 10:47 am
Clearly he hasn’t seen us get outcoached time after time.
Also, Jason Licht is not good. The passing on Derwin is a MAJOR miss considering the need was so massive. Joe still hasn’t admitted he was wrong about saying Derwin isn’t that good pre draft. He has missed on needs time and time again.
December 6th, 2018 at 10:53 am
I’ll tolerate you until I can replace you. Heard that somewhere before. Koetter is gone by sundown after the Atlanta game.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:00 am
I can only recall two times where the Glazer’s fired a coach where the team had increased their win total from previous year.
Sam and Lovie.
All about the trajectory for them
December 6th, 2018 at 11:00 am
no way 7-9 and 30,000 in stands, who wants to support a franchise that is ok with losing and saying the ceiling is 7-9, wtf is that supposed to mean to the fans. Licht deserves to be fired immediately, and therefore with a new regime dirk is gone……seriously ppl are cool with 7-9????? WOW
December 6th, 2018 at 11:01 am
If we get to 7-9 and play well in all for games I think he is back, I believe next year is the final test of Dirk’s contact so if they move on after next season it doesn’t cost them any money. I think the Glazers are tired of paying fired coaches. I think it helps the franchise by not giving Dirk the hook, because trust me no respectable coach likes seeing the Bucs fire coaches every two years.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:02 am
@ tmaxcon…
Whether the Glazers keep Koetter remains to be seen (I’m in the camp they don’t). Here’s what JOHN Harbaugh would be entertaining, IMO but accurate.
1) TAMPA: Harbaugh would see the QB and offensive skill weapons in place across the board, something he has never had in BAL, minus the RB situation here of course, which is putrid. As it turns out, the running game in BAL during his tenure is undoubtedly something they always performed very well at, with undiscovered scrubs all along the way practically (except Jamal Lewis). Also, Harbaugh knows how to draft and develop the defensive pieces to build upon, Kwon, maybe Vea, and a couple others perhaps–again something he knows very well as evidenced in BAL. Lastly, and I consider this point to be a big one, I just feel John Harbaugh would like to get out of the AFC for either a while, or the rest of his career, with the hierarchy and time spent against Steelers, Patriots, etc. continually in deference to them.
2) DENVER: After Elway cans Joseph to re-establish Denver’s credibility (and Elway can’t stand his weak personality), this is the most attractive (other)option Harbaugh would entertain. Cons: offense is pretty atrocious on a consistent basis VS. Tampa, with Keenum, WR corps, and OLine some real issues, other than Lindsay being a hidden gem perhaps. That resembles Baltimore really, plus needing to battle all the same AFC foes that he has always battled in futility. Defense, ehh, some pieces, but aging, and will likely require a fair amount of draft and develop work other than DLine there. Drafting a young QB I think to some measure will drive Harbaugh’s personality crazy, sort of intolerant, and Jameis here is much further along as a QB talent.
3) ARIZONA: Once Bidwill cans Wilks cuz he just plain wasn’t ready, and probably cans Keim too, Harbaugh would see an NFC rebuild project on BOTH sides of the ball, with the exceptions of David Johnson, and perhaps Rosen which remains to be seen, plus Peterson at CB. Other than those, he would have a hell of a lot more work to do, THAN IN TAMPA, where the offense with a RB or two. I just don’t see Harbaugh at his age, wanting that much murkiness and almost total rebuild than what Tampa has in place.
** Dallas and Green Bay will be targeting younger completely offensive-minded studs to lead their offenses, not Harbaugh.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:03 am
The Bucs’ cornerstone losers (Koetter, Licht, Winston, McCoy) ain’t goin’ nowhere unless and until the fans revolt in the form of extreme low attendance.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:17 am
Continuity is big. But do you want continuity from what from the performance of the team’s last two weeks or the continuity from the dreadful mid season run. I agree, everyone should be in a wait and see position until the final four games play out.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:20 am
I believe this is true, but I believe it is a bad decision. So next year, what will be good enough… 9-7? would be improvement right??
Facts are this coach has done less, relative to its talent, each successive season. I know everyone loves to start with Licht, but this defense looks a bunch better with a new coach. The players just might be in place. VHIII is way more suited to play in this style of defense. Way more press man. Many are clamouring for an entirely new staff, but I believe the bones of a good staff are in place on both sides of the ball. The team needs a really good head coach and that would catapult this team into the next step. This team is a few small tweaks and a new voice away from truly soaring. I could see a younger coach coming in and maintain much of the staff.
Duffner can call a good game. Monken can call a good game. This team needs attitude and a voice. Kris Richard keeps looking better to me. Loved watching him work vs Saints.
The Glazers fired Dungy after losing in the playoffs, not sure how to reconcile keeping Koetter after his tenure.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:24 am
I think Koetter needs one more year. The QB situation, because of Winston’s suspension, was a mess. Mike smith was a joke as DC. To behind the times. I think the one thing most people forget is the kicker issues. Everyone makes fun of kickers but think of how many games come down to a late field goal. Today, look how many games are affected by a missed PAT. Not sure is Santos is the long term answer but he has been solid so far. The Bucs need a game wrecker at safety and a game wrecker at running back. If they get these they WILL be in the playoffs next season, even with Koetter as HC!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:24 am
PLEASE STOP SAYING WHAT MARK DOMINIK THINKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:26 am
FIRE JASON LICHT!!!
Coming from a former Jason Licht supporter. I have simply seen too many errors and this has gone on long enough for this non sense to continue.
I have never seen a GM in the NFL with so much margin for error who has had the same job for 5+ years. But he somehow hangs on because every once in a while the dude will draft a decent above average player.
Jason Licht doesnt relieze that you need SUPERSTARS to win in the NFL, stop wasting our time with these average players with storys. Its a cuttrhoat league not a sentimental one.
Jason Licht will go down as one the worst GMs in NFL history. Consistently week draft classes, Roberto Aguyo, his inability to form a complete NFL defense and I dont even know where to begin to start with his free agent history. How about Michael Johnson, Anthony Collins, Kyle Brindza, Alterraun Verner, Overpaid Desean Jackson. ETC.
And Derwin James sure looks pretty damn good in LA, Vernon Hargreeves is a mediocre 1st round nickle on IR and Ronald Jones flat out sucks.
And how does one tell me that Koetter and Jameis are the problem? The root of the Bucs MAIN issue (Lack of talent) is Jason Licht and his crap scouting department.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:26 am
I don’t think it’s that crazy.
Look at what these Glazers have gotten out of the last 3 tries at hiring a coach in terms of record and winning %:
Morris: 17-31 (35.4%)
Schiano: 11-21 (34.4%)
Lovie: 8-24 (25%)
That’s a collective record of 36-76.
If Koetter finishes at 7-9 his record will be 21-27 through 3 seasons (43.8%)
If he finishes 9-7 it’d be 23-25 or (47.9%).
That’s not good enough. But these guys have seen WAY worse. They could be scared to f*ck up the only semi-OK coach they’ve hired since Gruden.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:27 am
nutter
dirk isnt needed….lol….
he’s hands off when it comes to defense….
hasnt developed winston….
makes poor coaching decision every week….
horrible at play calling…..
fact is your wrong….
first, he never wanted to fired smitty even tho it was evident he was leading the worst defense in the nfl for almost 2 years…..the front office had to step in and instruct him to fire smitty….
next, dirk is mentality weak…..he wants to keep things a secret about who’s calling plays and when it gets out that monken is producing the high powered offense, he gets butt hurt and takes back play calling…..and it cost us the WAS game…..as a HC you should check your ego at the door….
then comes the QB mess…..dirk showed he isnt fit for HC if he lets djax and folks on the outside suggest fitz gives us the best chance to win….lol….winston shouldve started the bears game and shouldve never been benched…..dirk never committing to winston caused him press and look over his shoulder which resulted in his cincy debacle…..a journey man back up gives you the best chance to win over your former #1 overall pick that you were promoted to develop….GTFOH!!!!!
cant blame kicker BS on him but he couldve made better decision regarding putting the ball in the kickers hands(or leg) vs putting the ball in monken and winstons hands……
the defense only improved in spite of dirk….if dirk had his way, smitty would still be running the defense from the pressbox…….
i think our team is playing more for each other rather than dirk…..imo, the team has finally found its true leader in JPP and HE has the team fighting hard because HE wont quit…..
you should only keep continuity if things are constantly good or constantly improving….which means finishing .500 or a winning record and players are being developed…..that is not happening here under this staff….
clean house!!!!!
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:31 am
seen a lot of bad play…but NO quit
December 6th, 2018 at 11:34 am
The Buccaneers Head Coaching job is not a desirable job…that’s what everyone seems to ignore. I get that there’s only 32 of these jobs in the world, but if all 32 positions were open at the same time, the Bucs would be in the last two or three that would get filled.
If Koetter and Winston continue to look good down the stretch and the organization believes that they dont have to replace the Head Coach AND the QB, then Koetter will keep his job.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:36 am
It is a tough decision for the Glazers.
If the Bucs go 7-9(which I think they will) they have to look at
The positives:
Team went 4-2 over the last six games
Strong run down the stretch with their 24 year old QB having a winning record.
Much improved defense with what looks like a good DC.
Number one offense in the NFL
Head Coach that understand the passing game very well
A kicker that looks like he is an NFL kicker
Team plays hard for the head coach.
And Negatives:
Stubborn coach that kept Mike Smith way too long
Bungled the QB decision that cost the team two victories in my opinion.
Bungled the decision to keep a kicker that needed to be cut after he hit a game winning kick in OT.
A head coach that does a poor job with clock management.
Loosing record with a team that if coached by most NFL coaches would have won two more games this season.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:36 am
So many forget of the disaster that Coach Koetter had to navigate with the jw3 debacle!!!!! that really set this team back, as did the almost full rebuild of the defense that took time to gel together to the point that they could take advantage of an injured cam!!!!! You can easily see giving Head Coach Koetter a pass!!!!!! This team has come so far from the incompetent lovie days!!!!!! watching that buffoon on the sideline knowing that the team would either lose or get blown out every time was the lowest point of being a buc fan!!!!!!! We have 19 wins with Head Coach Koetter in 2 3/4 years with the arrow point up!!!!!!! Loser lovie has 17 wins the past 6 years!!!!!!!! This team really has come from so far away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO Bucs!!!!!!
the sheep ask why loser lovie was terrible????????
Answer: Because garbage always stinks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:39 am
813bucboi
Everything you mentioned about Dirk Koetter is stuff that hes already fixed. Maybe it took him longer than he shouldve but its already been fixed.
– Fitzmagic died out and Jameis has re- taken over and fixed his interception problem
– Offense was too conservative when Dirk was calling plays so he turned over duties to Monken.
– Mike Smith sucks so he got canned
Head Coaches in the NFL who are not stuck in their own ways are rare. Dirk is improving as a head coach and has shown to hes open to making the necessary adjustments to help the team.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:41 am
If I have to choose between Licht and Koetter.. bye Jason
December 6th, 2018 at 11:46 am
my question to all the folks that want to retain dirk is, do you truly believe we can win the division with dirk and which coach in the NFC is dirk better than?….
imo, dirk is better than the cardinals coach and thats only because he’s in his first year as HC and has a rookie QB…..he may be on the same level as pat shumer with the giants but i like pat over dirk…..every coach in the NFC north and south is better than dirk…..so he’s better than wilkins in ARZ and on the same level as pat shumer who also failed as the browns HC….
so folks want to keep a HC that doesnt even give us a punchers chance vs the better coaches in the NFC let alone the division…..i see why they jump for joy for 7-9….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:48 am
The one thing I will say is this offense is scoring points like no other Bucs team in the past. And if we had Kareem Hunt running the ball we could even be scoring more points. The defense is playing better and I think with another good draft and free agent signings they could be much better. But they need to avoid injuries and start up strong next year. A flop next year and Koetter is done.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:48 am
one thing to consider is who would you want to replace Dirk? Some prove guy probably doesn’t want this roster and Jameis so then you are going for an unproven cordinator so they may think “hey we’ve screwed this up before, lets give dirk another year”.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:49 am
These guys get a huge check for their share of the TV revenue. Attendance won’t factor in all that much.
Plus the team is worth damn near a billion more than they paid for it.
And they got a sweetheart of a stadium deal.
Sure they want to win and are likely embarrassed to field a team before a 25% filled stadium. But they are so filthy rich it really doesn’t hurt them much.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:51 am
There are not many head coaches that ARE needed lol.
Being hands off on defense isn’t a bad thing right now.
Seems like Winston has had his best consecutive 3 games of his career recently.
All coaches make bad decisions occasionally. No more than Schiano Raheem or lovie
Horrible at playcalling with the #1 offense and when he was oc gave us the most yards from scrimmage in our history and have been top 10 since he’s been here in yards? Hmmmmmmm
Fact is you’re actually quite wrong about most things.
You don’t know that ownership stepped in. From all accounts it was his decision so you’re just making that up.
Mentally weak? Now you’re just personally bashing the guy. You don’t know his kotive behind that. Nobody does but them two I’m sure. So that’s a misinformed guess at this point.
I already agreed about winston but when Fitz has the best 3 games to start a season is history and Jameis throws 4 picks how is that a dumb decision? LMAO. It was an easy one. It was just the wrong one and it’s worked itself out.
Your next point is just petty and not worth addressesing.
Um Dirk employed monken. He promoted him. But it’s in spite of him? Haha gtfoh. That’s just dumb. Again you’re just making stuff up about Mike smith being fired was an ownership decision.
I disagree. The players always are outspoken for their support in Dirk. I’m sorry bro but u don’t somehow get better because u play for the players. Leadership is never ignored.
If we finish strong that is continuity.
Agree to disagree but still tons of holes in your logic.
But ya let’s switch things up right when the team is playing very well. Smh We will see.
December 6th, 2018 at 11:51 am
813
The only thing you like to see your name and write the same thing over and over.
Spew hate at Koetter like temax does at McCoy. Your the one that needs to get a life and GTFOH!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:56 am
tbbucs3
fixed?….lol….after 2games its fixed…lol…its too early to say things are fixed, we still have games that need to be played…..
thats like saying we’re headed to the SB after beating the saints and philly in weeks 1 & 2…..
things arent fixed…we played a lousy 9ers team and a reeling panthers team that had an injured cam……
too small of a sample size……
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:57 am
tnew^^ I’m cool with keeping the guys you mentioned, but Warhop is terrible- anyone that WATCHES the games will see where our biggest deficiency lies now that kicker and D-line are okay. Our O-line is as bad now as they were 3 years ago. Can’t run block and pass blocking has either gotten our QBs killed or leading to some (not all) turnovers which fall on the QBs and RBs stat lines. He gots to go!!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:57 am
“Lol,The Klueless BucSheep
Tampa jumped many cities to get the Superbowl in 2019. The NFL is there master
NFL has told them to build a 10 million dollar indoor facility for the Superbowl
NFL told them to fill those RJS seats and is in depth analysis with the Bucs business dept to correct this now and during the 2019 season
NFL is going to demand a splash HC hire to fill those seats and excitement in the coming
“Kobe, How do you these things”
Lord Cornilius
“Jenna Laine talks in her sleep”
Kobe Faker
December 6th, 2018 at 12:14 pm
Anyone remember 2016? 5 game win streak? Then what? Mike Smith stops being aggressive for the next 2 games (Dallas and New Orleans), we lose them both (won the last game against a Panther team that rested everyone) and we miss the playoff in a tie-breaker. The point is a tiger never changes his stripes. Koetter will eventually go back to his ways (just look at him taking back over the play calling against Washington because Monken was getting too much love-he couldn’t help himself). How come he hasn’t fired Warhop yet? Why did it take him so long to fire Smitty? Why didn’t he fire the DB coaches in the off season? ST Coach? etc Look at what has happened in 1 year since Jeff Fisher has been fired from the Rams. We have shown that we are THAT close without Mike Smith, we will be THAT much closer if Koetter goes next, IMO
December 6th, 2018 at 12:16 pm
nutter & dbs
your man crush for dirk is embarrassing…..so many folks on here say they dont want dirk to return along with me but somehow only im wrong…lol….
when dirk was OC we produced a lot of yards not points….and points are what win games…..
fact is your satisfied with being a loser….you could care less about winning…you 2 are more concerned with keeping bad things together…..
obviously, you 2 guys or gals dont watch football and arent bucs fans….more dirk fans than anything…..
and i like the fact that you skipped over his inability to develop winston…you know, the reason why he was promoted in the first place…..
or the fact that a week before smitty was fired, dirk said he’s not going to fire smitty…then he got fired….so you think no one stepped in?…and if dirk had his way, smitty would still be running the defense…..
the team played well vs a team with a top 3 pick and a team that lost 3 straight and has an injured QB…..we were suppose to win those games…..
so yeah, lets swicth things up…..a competent HC would have 7 or 8 wins with this team by now…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
JJBUCFAN
BRAVO SIR!!!!!!!!
I AGREE 100%!!!!!!!
and the reason why he hasnt fired those coaches is because nobody(front office) has told him too…..he only fired smitty because he was told too…..
but ssshhhh…..thats a secret between us….lol…
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 12:21 pm
lol Kobe I’m fine with a change at this point. Enough indictments even if we have a good finish. I also could live with one more year if Koetter gets to 9-7 and a lot of the draft picks continue to improve or flash between Vea/Whitehead/Davis/maybe even sh1tbag jones.
The reason I would think Koetter/Licht get another year tho is basically:
Prior 7 seasons win % with last 3 coaches: 32.1%
Koetter’s win % if they get to 7-9 or better: 43.8%-47.9%
These Glazer boys likely have no confidence in their ability to find the next stud coach; given that they did a horrendous job the last 10 years.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:26 pm
Like I said 813
You like to see your name. Spew Hate. We got it. You want him mugged. Crucified. Hung. Jameis was benched and deserved it. Get over it. Get a life. Your an exact copy of Tmax.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:32 pm
“813bucboi Says:
December 6th, 2018 at 11:46 am
my question to all the folks that want to retain dirk is, do you truly believe we can win the division with dirk and which coach in the NFC is dirk better than?….”
I dont want to necessarily retain dirk but I want to try and answer this anyway.
Within the South as of right now not sure he’s better than anyone; but I’m also not sure I’d swap him for Rivera or Quinn without thinking about it. Probably Quinn although he’s done a bad job adjusting to their defense being banged up when I thought that was his deal. The offenses there were best with Shanahan and should be good regardless due to an established Ryan and a plethora of skill players and a good line.
NFC North – I would take him over McCarthey. Probably take him over Patricia because ex Bellicheck staff seems destined for failure usually. Mike Zimmer is the coach I wanted back when he was available so I’d make that swap today. Naggy in Chicago looks like he knows what he’s doing so I’d probably make that change too; although they are super stacked with defensive talent.
NFC West – I’d take him over anyone on the Cardinals staff. But would rather have McVay/Carrol/Shanahan after that.
NFC East – Would rather have Dirk than Garrett/Shumer. Gruden maybe debatable. Pederson over Doug too although I’m wondering if that whole Eagles magic was a fluke at this point. They have also been one of the most stacked talented teams in terms of O-line/D-line every year
December 6th, 2018 at 12:52 pm
Man crush? Really? Your age is showing.
You’re just more verbal than most.
Now we’re satisfied with being a loser? Man you have absolutely no substance or merit to your rebuttals lmao.
I never skipped anything. I said Winston is playing brilliantly. Love how you weigh Cincy more than everything else lol.
You’re just guessing still about Smitty. I think it’s evident when he saw he had the worst defense in history he had to do something. That and the fact he said it was his decision. But keep guessing little guy.
We’re just suggesting things are going good and what should happen if it continues. Man you twist things. Twist the night away!
It’s clear right now you’re in the majority of bucs fans that only look at the negative and are quick to make changes just to start things over again and are surprised when adversity strikes.
Man this fan base is dumb.
December 6th, 2018 at 12:54 pm
Lol. This is the 3rd year. Its a pattern not a coincidence. Under dirk theyll win the first game then play like the dont know what football is for a while then improve some at the end lf the year. Then the improvment doesnt carry over to the next year. So start it over again. No thanks. Seen this show 3 years too many. Adios
December 6th, 2018 at 12:55 pm
My biggest problem is that Dirks team has entered so many games and was not even competitive.
Losing is one thing but when your team is done by halftime it simply is not entertaining.
Dirk has failed to meet expectations. Things could change over the last 4 games but right now I see no evidence that Dirk can field a competitive football team.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:05 pm
Now look at that top picture and say you really want him and his family picking yet another coach. AGAIN! I am not a big Koetter fan but I damn sure with their history don’t.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:10 pm
One of the biggest detriments for Dirk is his inability to build a good staff. Lord Corn just posted that Doug Peterson’s SB title may have been a fluke but a likely reason for their regression is all the assistant coaches he lost this year.
Nobody seems to like Jason Garret but a big reason he is having success is because he sourrounds himself with quality assistants.
Look at the Reid coaching tree. They are having a lot of success because of their coaching roots. Their are a lot of great coordinators and assistants coming out of that system.
Dirk just does not have strong coaching roots. He’s picking pieces off of the Mike Smith and Del Rio tree.
Dirk takes all of the blame(rightfully so) and a lot of his shortcomings can probably be linked to his staff being bottom tier.
IMO if Dirk stays their have to be changes made to we build a staff. I love what Duffman has done but retaining him as DC would be a bad decision. This franchise needs better coaching and hiring a DC with some legitimate pedigree(Schwartz for example) could be what’s needed to get us over the top.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:12 pm
LC
so out of the 16 coaches, you have dirk ahead of only 5 coaches…..2 of those coaches are 1st time HC’s…..
so if you take out matt in DET and wilks in ARZ because its their first HC job, that puts dirk at the bottom of the barrel….he’ll only be ahead of 3 coaches mccarthy, garrett and shumer……
and folks LIKE @DBS & @NUTTER want to retain him…..lol….GTFOH!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 1:15 pm
You can’t count out the players the eagles lost either. Pats are the only team that are always able to replace people.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:17 pm
Pet Shot Boys-lovin’ ex-GM Mark Dominick just doesn’t understand that he didn’t have the looks nor the brain to make lots of money (or be a good GM). The fact that he could not draft good players or sign respectable free agents made his firing by Team Glazer inevitable. At least, they left him with multiple years remaining on his contract in order to pay him not to do his job. When Dominick argues that Koetter will be kept on, he meant on his contract after he gets fired. It’s a sin!
December 6th, 2018 at 1:21 pm
“LC, im also a trend follower
the offense is going toward a fast quick short passing game because it puts the defense in an defensive position
its all about matchups and getting your running backs and TEs against 240lb linebackers in the pass game
REMEMBER THIS SHEEPS. Long time developing offense with QB holding the ball to wait for recievers to get open is no more and does not work
Look want is happening to the top offenses and young HCs and the old ancient Head coaches
Remember the grestest show on turf? after marchall faulk left with the short passing game, the originator of the vertical long time passing game MIKE MARTZ is coaching at the san Diego fleet.
kOBE is a trend follower and make decisions with least resistance. follow the trend…
get a young proactive Head coach with balls”
Kobe Faker
December 6th, 2018 at 1:23 pm
813…..Why don’t you chill on Dirk for a minute?
Let him prepare the team and let’s see how we show on Sunday.
All I’m saying is that the guy still does have a punchers chance to still meet expectations. So why not wait til he losses before running him off?
December 6th, 2018 at 1:26 pm
Said it since week 1 7 or 8 wins and Dirk and Licht stay with the #1 offense
December 6th, 2018 at 1:31 pm
nutter
lol….he had the worse defense last year……and outside of 5 fluky games, smitty had the worse defense in 2016…..
get a clue man…..just because you put lipstick on a pig doesnt mean its not a pig anymore…lol….
just because we got 2 wins doesnt mean the things are fixed…..
keep believing the front office didnt have a hand in smittys firing…..lol…its comical….actually no its not, it sad…..shows your lack of knowledge and incompetence…..
its clear that the majority of fans see things for what they are and what they have been and not what they think it could be in the future…..
people like you and @DBS belong in cleveland since yall cool with hanging on to coaches who cant win…lol…
you and @DBS arent the sharpest knives at the dinner table……lol….more like a couple of rocks by the pond….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 1:35 pm
If only we had hired Marvin Lewis instead of Gruden. We could have had 7 first round playoff losses in the last 16 years instead of 1 Super Bowl. Koetter can stay, Monken, Duffman, Buck, maybe the wr coach. Replace the rest. This isn’t the right time to tear everything down. Everytime I hear Koetter say, “our players are our players” I think, yeah, right, because we have an incompetent GM. Licht is better at picking players off the street than drafting. This year’s draft could have been so much better, but he blew it. Jeez, the only above average player Licht has ever drafted in the second round is Marpet, and he had to trade up to do it.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:41 pm
jimmyjack
because i’ve seen this movie before…it came out in 2017….
last year during this same time when we were 4-8 folks were saying, if dirk wins out we should keep him….we lost….4-9
then it turned into if he wins 2 of the next 3, we should keep him….we lost….4-10
then it went to if we can finish with back to back win he should stay….we lost….4-11
finally it was, well, if the team doesn’t quit vs the saints he should be retained….turns out dirk was ready to quit but winston saved his job by ignoring him…..and we won….and folks said sure, 5-11 is good enough to bring him back…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 1:52 pm
813……I understand. I agree with your points and I been wanting Dirk out since last yrar & was wishing for an interim HC earlier this year.
The comparisons to last year, and 2016, are fair but that does not mean it’s doomed to repeat itself.
Like I said. Dirk still has a punchers chance to meet expectations. There is no harm in rooting for him to fight his way out of this mess.
Hey if you gotta keep railing on his shortcomings go ahead. If we lose I’ll join you…….But til we lose I am looking to see Dirk make progress. People do get better at their jobs in time ya know.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:55 pm
Winning is the tonic that cures all in the NFL. Don’t know how much winning Dirk has to do to please everybody but whatever it is can be achieved.
December 6th, 2018 at 1:59 pm
jimmyjack
i hear ya….
i’ll fall back to wait and see mode…..lol….
i just think its foolish for “fans” to say he should be retained because we won our last 2 games and claim things are fixed…lol….2games is too small of a sample size…..try the entire year…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 2:11 pm
813…..The 2 games argument will get blown to s*** if we have another blowout.
Given Dirk’s history another blowout won’t suprize me.
I’ve just chosen to reserve judgement and jump on the playoff bandwagon…..Of course I know I’m setting myself up for letdown but here’s the thing……..I’ve realized after all these years that I know how to handle a loss. If this team embarrasses and dejects me again I know I’m battle tested.
December 6th, 2018 at 2:33 pm
Like I said, my opinion is 9-7 and playoffs- I’m personally okay with him returning next year. 9-7 no playoffs? I will not be able to forgive him for not playing Jameis for those couple games/ not firing Mike Smith at the end of last season or at least the bye week. JMO
December 6th, 2018 at 2:42 pm
Okay so now he had the worst defense but you just bashed him for not engaging with the defense. Hmmmmmmm
Why do u keep going on and on about the last 2 games? I clearly stated that if he finishes strong multiple times. Catch up bud.
It’s funny how even Joe isn’t sure whether the front office or Dirk made the decision yet buc baby boy knows the deal. Ironically that’s showing your lack of awareness. Not sure what that has to do with incompetence but if I lack it, that means I’m competent. LMAO. Backfire!
For what they are? Hmmm so what is that? The #1 offense with currently a top 10 defense. Mark Dominick thinks he could stick with a strong finish but buc baby boy knows more than mark Dominick. LMAO. That’s cute.
Okay so now you’re insulting my intelligence after saying I’m not incompetent, suggesting you know more than mark Dominick, laid out many issues with the team that have already vastly improved, missed on comprehending my point about finishing strong 4x, and got called out for being ignorant yourself by multiple people? Hmmmmmmm
Don’t worry, most teenagers think they know more than more intelligent people than themselves. It’s not uncommon. At least you had a really funny rock by the pond joke! That Nickelodeon humor will get u far!
But your football IQ won’t.
December 6th, 2018 at 2:47 pm
Hey guys! If you think Dirk could still be here next year with a strong finish and a #1 offense with a top 10 defense with massive injuries, buc boi thinks you’re as dumb as a rock by a pond!
Get em buc boi! These people think Mark Dominick knows more about the bucs than you do! What idiots!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 2:59 pm
9-7 should be the bar. The ONLY bar!
No ownership group worth their weight would tolerate the BS losing, I don’t care how inconsistent the coaching is. This organization has always been a reflection of its leadership and save for a few seasons, it has outright STUNK!
Would the Glazers do it?! Sure. Because that’s who they are. Would the Rooneys or Krafts do it? NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!
7-9 is losing. It’s for losers. We were 5-11 a year ago! A 2-game improvement and we’re ready to re-sign this coaching staff?! Man, only in Tampa Bay!
7-9?! Really?!
9-7 or pack your bags!
December 6th, 2018 at 3:03 pm
In my heart I hope Koetter and Licht get to stay and finish what they have started. I want them to guide us to the Super Bowl and bring the Lombardi Trophy back to One Buc Place!
My mind says Licht has done a good job as GM, but Koetter has failed as an NFL head coach so far.
As a fan I am also aware of the contradictions between “win now!” and “build an enduring winner!”.
None of us has all of the answers. Fans have to gut it out too. Don’t give up!
Meanwhile, take down the Saints this week, Buccaneers!
___________
Go Bucs!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 3:13 pm
Bucsfan. That’s just kind of lazy analysis. Although I agree, the problem was eradicated in smith and now that there’s Improvement, we should reset? Hmmm
If we win 2 of the next 4 and lose to the saints and barely lose another but the defense is very good and the offense is firing than that’s the bar?
Listen man I’m not happy with Dirk but you guys are only including a few pieces of the whole picture. I respect your opinion though. It’s more educated than buc baby boy.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:21 pm
Buccernutter- We are on a 2-game win-streak high right now and, IMO, rushing to judgement regarding any perceived turn-around. We have a large enough sample-size to tell us that it is simply not good enough.
I will happily dance on my chair if this is indeed the “turning point” we all want it to be. I’m just not ready to give them the benefit of the doubt yet. Call it getting kicked in the nuts for a decade, if you will!
7-9 for me is just such a low bar. If we go 8-8 and look really good doing it, I might waffle a bit. 🙂
December 6th, 2018 at 3:30 pm
Buccanutter……I just kinda disagree with you saying the offense is good based on rankings.
IMO their are ongoing problems that Dirk has shown no ability to fix. Oline being the biggest.
Look at last week’s win. Our defense stood up which was great to see but those final 3 punts at the end could have lost us the game and were a direct result of Dirks inability to build a rush attack here.
I will give credit where it’s due because Dirks team has started games better lately, which is something that was losing us games before. He also deserves credit for improved QB play………….But that is where 2 games comes into play. 2 games is just not good enough……Now if we can see this areas show some consistently to finish the year I’ll listen. Until then the 2 games mean little.
That still leaves us with major issues in our running game and on the Oline. Imporvement in those areas should be a determing factor for Dirks future……..#1 means much less when you have problem spots on that offense who are actively losing football games for you.
Hashtag WINS over STATS
December 6th, 2018 at 3:34 pm
The next game, facing the Saints, will show us all we need to know. If the defense steps up and if Winston remains turnover-free, and the result is beating the Saints, then winning out is very possible.
If not, we have to at least replace the defensive staff, including Buckner, whose DL has only had 2 good games.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:35 pm
nutter
you think because we won 2 games, 1 being vs a team that will have a top 3 pick, is showing signs of improvement…..GTFOH!!!!!….
a HC is suppose to know and have his footprint on all 3 phases of the ball….dirk has admittedly said he is hands off with the defense….so we had 2 coaches dirk and smitty who didnt/dont know a damn thing about defense…..he shouldve had some type of input on the defense but never did…..hhhmmmmm…i wonder why…..
look, if you want to believe every word out of dom’s mouth then be my guess….doesnt make you any smarter….lol….it shows your lack of intelligence because dom has been wrong about this team and staff so many times….
then you want to sit here and bash everyone that agree with me that believes dirk should be let go or 7-9 is good enough for dirk to be kept…..lol…
@bucsfan basically says the same thing im saying….7-9 aint good enough but somehow you “respect” his opinion…..we’re saying the same thing GTFOH!!!!!
FIRE DIRK!!!!!!
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 3:37 pm
@JimmyJack
Koetter has absolutely nothing to do with the Offensive line. Jason Licht is the guy there. He used to play OL and it’s his claim to fame. He makes the decisions on the line.
Plus, it’s getting better.
With Dotson out, the younger RT stepped in and did very well. The young guys are going to be very good. (Cappa at RG)
December 6th, 2018 at 3:41 pm
nutter
do you understand the lesson today?….
because @bucsfanman & @jimmyjack just schooled your dirk lovin a$$!!!!!!!
7-9 aint good enough!!!!!…2games is too small of a sample size to claim dirk has “fixed” things!!!!!!
but, WTFDIK…LOL….apparently more than you!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 3:41 pm
I despise this silly notion that if we got #1 offense and a #15 defense we can magically convert that into 10+ wins.
Sports don’t work that way……#1 don’t mean your perfect and this offense is far from it…….Tell me what good a #1 offense is during a game when you turn it over 5 times……Get out of here preaching that like it’s some kind of winning formula.
Or how about when we cant ice a game? You call that #1 all you want but not putting games away will bite you in your ass if you dont fix it.
There’s always a way to lose in these league. Stats is not what separates good and bad teams in this league. Stats don’t get you wins. If they did Jay Cutler would still be a Pro QB and Andy Dalton would be considered an elite QB……..But them 2 choke under pressure nullifies all their stats.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:44 pm
Bonzai I did not read beyond your first sentance.
I give just assume you made a typo.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:46 pm
LOL Buc Boi it amazes me that you think Kris Richard is gonna come in here and turn the Bucs around. I can assure you we are not a Kris Richards away from another superbowl in Tampa.
I will say this again, The problem with the Tampa Bay Bucs is not the head coach. Its the players. They are simply not good enough (On defense + In the trenches+ at running back) to win, but the offense is.
With this current team, same roster but with any coach you want, this defense is not good enough to compete with the top teams, we would get shredded.
This team is 1 competent GM away from being a contender. One who can put together a top 15 defense and continue to upgrade the offense and that guy is not Jason Licht.
December 6th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
bonzai
he has nothing to do with the oline?…..lol….this is his team isnt it?……
damn, some of yall are clueless…..
so dirk has nothing to the with the oline, special teams or the defense…..dirks only job is to_____________(produce a lot of yards)….lol…..
so i guess dirk is only suppose to stand on the side line and throw the challenge flag….lol…
so HC’s arent responsible for developing players on both side of the ball….
that post is comical!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 3:49 pm
I HOPE Dirk proves me wrong, I really do.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:02 pm
tbbucs
Kris Richard is known for developing players….he helped create a winning culture and knows what it takes not only get to the SB but win it….
i dont think we’re “kris richard” away from going to the SB, but we are Kris Richard away from making the playoffs and consistently being a contender…..
how can you say its the players when most of the players on defense started playing better once smitty left the building….lol….that pokes a hole in your arguement right there….lol….the same players that were getting beat like a drum are suddenly producing sacks and TO’s…..
but you think dirk is the reason for that…even tho dirk has said numerous of times that he does not get involved with the defense…..
im pretty sure folks were thinking the same thing when they hired sean mcvay…..or anthony lynn…..”we’re not a new young HC away from winning”….and look at them now….both team know they’ll be in the playoffs and it aint even x-mas……
KRIS RICHARD 4 HC!!!!!
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 4:16 pm
Jimmy
Okay well I didn’t divulge and you would be surprised that I agree with most. But it’s not good to overlook the #1 offense even if it’s for yards. That can all be improved on.
I am going to chalk up the run game woes to lack of a good RB. I think you could agree with that.
As far as the 2 games, not sure why everyone is repeating over and over again and that’s not enough when we all agree with that conclusion. Again, this is about the next 4 and consistency and I agree.
Buc boi is a lot dumber than I thought. I literally said 3x now that those 2 games aren’t enough. I actually went into detail about it. LMAO is your comprehension that bad? Hahahah
Every word out of Dom’s mouth? Na man you’re just giving the guy no merit and that is itself ignorant. Buc boy does not know more than anyone here. Including Joe who has had many posts that directly conflict with your perception of things.
I didn’t bash anyone. I bashed you cuz you’re not very smart. Stop jumping on other people’s backs to side with you. It’s evident you’re not as up to date with this team than most of these other guys. It’s really not with debating considering you couldn’t even comprehend what I wrote and keep going on about the last 2 games. Why would I want to debate with a teenager?
Again lazy analysis. There was a lot more written here than keep him if he goes 7-9 but you’re so lost in your own words you didn’t catch on.
Damn two posts back to back to me? Ha. You upset? Jimmy or bonzai didn’t school anyone. We shared our opinions. I just made u look like a clown with your failed logic so your grasping what they said. Lol. Looks like you still didn’t comprehend cuz we agreed with each other on several topics. You didn’t address anything I said to you before cuz you got stuck in your failed logic.
Apparently you don’t when you keep mumbling about 7-9. LMAO.
I think we all can tell who the youngest most uninformed person is on this thread. **buc boi looking around while everyone is looking at him.
But but but we’re all as dumb as rocks by a pond. Gtfoh little boy. LMAO.
Come back when you drop nuts. 😘
December 6th, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Btw I don’t disagree with letting Dirk go if he’s 7-9 but no front office NFL gm will ever utilize your limited perception to draw that conclusion. That’s for sure.
There are many more influences to that decision than your mind can evidently handle at this point.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:34 pm
Jimmy
I also wanted to add nobody is preaching positional rankings are indicative of a winning formula lol. It’s much more complex than that. However if you’re getting yards than that’s half the battle. Now we can work on pts and limiting turnovers.
Not sure who you’re insinuating puts that much merit into stats and numbers but it’s not me. However high rankings do reflect some sort of success.
My point is the offense is good. If you don’t agree with that then this convo isn’t going anywhere. Yes run blocking can be worked on. Yes turnovers too. Yes rushing. Most of which have shown to be improved the last 3 games.
For the last time those aren’t enough but I will not be surprised if Dirk is retained if we finish strong. I’m not advocating for it as little buc boy keeps mentioning but I wouldn’t be surprised. I could also see it being consistent.
My logic is now the defense is playing well. We cannot simply judge Dirk’s tenure on that side of the ball because of the drastic changes the last few weeks. Especially with injuries. Can u really tell me that you would be furious if we finish 8-8 with a good offense and a defense there played lights out once we made a change at DC? So the answer is to start again and hope it matched the latter of 2018’s output?
I’m just saying I wouldn’t be surprised and I would support it. Being that it’s the front offices decision, I’m sure they’d have a lot more insight and reason to base such a decision than buc boy on Joe bucs fan.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:35 pm
Can’t we just all get along?! Lol!
It’s all opinion and speculation at this point. Win Sunday! Isn’t that what we all want?
December 6th, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Ya bucsfan I agree.
Plus this is all opinionated which is the deadliest of all debates.
Let’s see what happens and then talk. I’ll be around.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:45 pm
There are just a lot of varying opinions about Dirk. A lot of fans have been high on Dirk and probably don’t need to see as much to be convinced. Other fans,like myself, have been down on Dirk for a long time now and will need more convincing.
Opinions will shift in each of these last four games.
Too many fans get off on being proven right about something. If you think Dirk sucks and are happy to be proven right the you got some messed up priorities.
If you aren’t excited to see if Dirk can prove his naysayers wrong this week then you just don’t have a 💓 beat as a fan.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:47 pm
Hahaha we are all random posters in a blog. Nobody’s impressed if your predictions come true.
Some of y’all need to get over you selves.
December 6th, 2018 at 4:50 pm
9 dash 7 Buccernutter! 9-7! Lol!
December 6th, 2018 at 4:59 pm
Ha true.
We’re going 9-7 then we’re winning the bowl! Then we can fire koetter!
December 6th, 2018 at 5:05 pm
nutter
just give it up man….lol…stop embarrassing yourself…..lol….
other have poked holes all thru your argument…..
the only thing you’ve been right about is being in the minority when it comes to retaining dirk…..most feel the same way i do….dirk should be canned…..
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Why post this crap. Mark Dominik sucked. His opinions are worth nothing.
December 6th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
fire light
dont tell @nutter that….lol….
#NOEXCUSESIN2018!!!…#PRESSURESONTHECOACHES!!!…GO BUCS!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 5:22 pm
Buc boy with his last final jab.
Hasn’t been right once but deflects to me being in the minority about koetter. When I never actually said I advocated for him to stay…yet.
You’ll get it when those nuts drop one day and you’ll be buc man!
Enjoy high school bud, I miss it!
December 6th, 2018 at 5:26 pm
Mark Dominick could tell you things about the owners that, basically, nobody else could.
When he talks it’s worth a listen. He may be a poor evaluator but if he’s sharing his opinion on what the Glazers are thinking you probably gonna learn something if you pay attention.
December 6th, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Ya fire licht*, I lack incompetence. 😂
December 6th, 2018 at 5:30 pm
Exactly JJ. Not sure why justifying his reason is an issue. Lol
December 6th, 2018 at 5:31 pm
The team would legitimately be in the playoff hunt if Winston had been starting over the loser Fitz, but Dirk is a moron who throws hissy fits, and it’s why he shouldn’t be an NFL head coach. It’s too bad what I called for nearly 2 years didn’t happen, that was make Mike Smith the head coach and demote Dirk to OC, use whatever wording was needed but let Smith be the head coach and run things, leave Dirk to work exclusively with the offense, then get a real DC. I still think that combo would have the team way ahead of where they are now since Winston would have a legit OC instead of a part time on, and the defense would have a legit DC instead of a HC being pushed into a position he left years ago and couldn’t go back into.
December 6th, 2018 at 5:49 pm
Munch your wrong.
Benching Winston was the best move Dirk made in his career. The proof is in the pudding.
Hashtag I love love telling Munch he is wrong & it’s my favorite part about this site.
December 6th, 2018 at 6:13 pm
Empty stadium despite giving it away free tickets something is going to change without a doubt
December 6th, 2018 at 6:54 pm
JimmyJack you are wrong. Winston should’ve been playing instead of loser Fitz. The Bucs are a playoff team without Fitz after week 3. Fitz, DJax, Koetter, and Licht messed this team up. Fireeeee Licht!
December 6th, 2018 at 7:10 pm
As we see things progressing at One Buc Place, I think it would be a mistake to fire Dirk Koetter, if we see the usual “As the NFL Turns” team-wide house cleaning take place. Such a housecleaning would mean not only do the Bucs fire Koetter, but that would mean that Todd Monken, Mark Duffner, and Bretson Buckner would follow him out the door, if we see a traditional NFL housecleaning.
Does Koetter have issues as a head coach, of course he does, but show
me one head coach who doesn’t have issues of some kind.
We’ve seen a whole lot of good things happening when Monken is calling the plays in a more traditional OC role; in the seven weeks under Duffner the defense is second in the league in sacks, is averaging just 16.25 points allowed at home although their points allowed on the road needs plenty of work; while those sacks have been amassed under Buckner’s tutelage while subjectively the hopes for the defensive line this year seem to be coming to fruition, finally, after the Bucs worked their way through a number of injuries along the D-line.
At this point and in my opinion, firing Koetter would tantamount to throwing the baby out with the bath water because of who would follow Koetter out the door.
December 6th, 2018 at 7:14 pm
Jamies. To me it is clear that Winston getting benched had a positive effect on his play. Some people think it’s the visor that has made the difference.
There’s really no way to proove whose right or wrong here since they are just opinion……..I just wish you hadn’t made me a admit that because I thouroughly enjoy tell Munch how his opinions are wrong.
December 6th, 2018 at 7:21 pm
Why blame Fitz and DJax… Dork made the decision to play Fitz and Licht is the idiot that signed DJax when our QB weakest link is the deep ball? Both should be fired regardless how the season ends… We finish strong last season didn’t we… how did that translate to wins this year ?????
December 6th, 2018 at 7:29 pm
please noooooooooooo. These guys are loosing masters. I can’t stand another year with these 3 please get rid of them why torture us within another 7-9
December 6th, 2018 at 7:29 pm
FtMyers………I have the same fears you do. Rebuild project are tough and usually take one step backwards before going forward…….emphasis on usually.
But when I read you post all you are bringing to the table is 2assistant coach’s and a coordinator. I just dont think 3 coach’s are going to be enough to fix this team.
Those three name just don’t justify bringing back a bad HC & bad coaching staff(overall). I just see a lot of holes on this coaching staff and it looks like it needs the help of more then three people.
Let’s not pretend like Monken is the only guy who can call plays in this league. Heck, for all we know Monken could be given more power over the offense next year and ruin it(not that I think he would).
December 6th, 2018 at 7:36 pm
I dont appreciate anybody calling my backup QB a loser. He’s dam good at his job and deserves a little freaking respect.
That rushing TD he had in week one should prevent any fan with a 💓 beat from such blatent disrespect.
But hey look who I’m talking to. This is the city that treated Carlos Pena like he was some sort of low life bum. All he did was make the biggest impact in that franchises history!!
GOOO RAYS!!!!!!
December 6th, 2018 at 7:37 pm
GOO BUCS!
December 6th, 2018 at 11:23 pm
If Koetter returns, the mandate next year is 9-7 at least. Unacceptable to have another slow start to the season.