Aguayo Bombs In 2017 Debut
May 23rd, 2017
Rough Tuesday at One Buc
Oh, boy.
Not a good start to spring kicking — in front of media — for Roberto Aguayo.
During a special teams period at this afternoon’s no-pads practice — 11-on-11 while kicking into narrower-than-normal goal posts — Aguayo missed at least three of the four kicks he attempted.
The first clanked the right goal post from 30 yards. After his third effort, practice went silent. You could hear a pin drop. Ninety players plus coaches, many just BSing and drinking water during the kicking period, were quiet.
Nick Folk then stepped and up and drilled kicks into the narrow uprights from 30 yards, then twice from 35, followed by a 40-yarder — a perfect 4-for-4.
It’s May and this stuff seems meaningless on the surface. But given the bizarre reality of the Bucs’ kicking situation, it’s definitely not.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:25 pm
wow …. what happened to this kid? Kicking in the NFL is the same as the NCAA … his head must be jacked …
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:26 pm
He cost us the playoffs last year. Cut him now and bring in real competition for Folk!
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:26 pm
That kid is way too soft. Just mentally weak. Bye
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:27 pm
“Ninety percent of the game is half mental.”
-Yogi Berra
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:29 pm
The kid is spent. He’s cooked.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Too much pressure here. He may succeed elsewhere.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:29 pm
Dude just isn’t an NFL kicker go find a Fsu alumnus to give you a job
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:30 pm
I feel for him. So much pressure and he seemingly can’t handle it. Still pulling for Aguayo but it’s not looking good…
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:31 pm
VERY good foresight by Licht and Co. to pick up cap casualty Folk – doesn’t eally matter how Aquayo does now.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:32 pm
The bright side of this is that Licht got us another kicker. The dark side is that we spent a valuable draft pick on Aguayo. At least Licht was honest enough with himself to not address the issue.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:35 pm
If he makes his kicks last year, we would have made the playoffs. I know you can say that about the offense or defense but kicking is supposed to be the one constant on your football team. If that guy kicks about average, we are in good shape.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:35 pm
the age of the typical kicker in the NFL is a testament to how few of these guys actually make it. most of that failure goes under the radar because they come and go anonymously and with little investment….between his draft status and the hard knocks selection, poor roberto is poised to have his pro kicking career implode on a larger stage than perhaps any other collegiate kicker in history
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:36 pm
“Once a kicker gets the yips, he’s done.”
– Bill Parcells
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:38 pm
Here we go. Buhbyeagauyo.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:41 pm
When your choking before camp……
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:45 pm
Cut your loses and save a roster spot.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:47 pm
What do we expect from him?
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:51 pm
Brindza 2.0 PEACE THE F**K OUT BUSTER✌️💩
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:53 pm
i just don’t think he has what’s it takes .. he lets one miss snow ball into another and he always seemed scared to miss last season . he’ll make a good kicking coach at fsu…
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:53 pm
Ruh-Roh Aguayo
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:54 pm
don’t get it – this kid was money in college with wider hash marks
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:55 pm
The whole point of getting Folk was to compete against Roberto Aguayo. Getting rid of Aguayo now would be pointless.
Let him compete. You never know…he might just surprise people…including me at this point. We’ve got a fall back plan, so we can afford to see if Aguayo overcomes his issues.
Folk isn’t great, but he’s good enough. I’m concerned that he wasn’t asked to attempt longer than 40 yards though.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:58 pm
Capece is caput.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:58 pm
NFLNut Says
“Kicking in the NFL is the same as the NCAA …”
It actually isn’t.
May 23rd, 2017 at 12:59 pm
Armando
He was not money in college unless it was a short kick
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:06 pm
Roberto Aguayo was money from inside the 40. From 40+, he was totally trash.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:10 pm
I figured he was done when he was shown documenting every little divot or imperfection in a little pocket notebook prior to the Seattle game. Stop over-thinking. See the ball, kick the ball.
We can’t get the draft pick back so what we paid is irrelevant to the decision. You have to pick the best player for your team going forward.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:12 pm
Narrower-than-normal goal posts people-you have no idea if he would have made those kicks on normal goal posts- read the words in the article boys and girls. Haters… let the process play out.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:13 pm
Not a good sign for Roberto. “Hard Knocks” is coming along with more cameras. If he can’t take the pressure now, oooooooooo-weeeeeeee it’s going to be ugly!!!
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:17 pm
He made 22 out of 31 FGs last season. The process has already played out. If he wasn’t a 2nd round draft pick. He would have been sent packing before mid-season. How can someone call this hating, this is a business, not a Madden game.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:19 pm
Adios Roberto
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:22 pm
He’s done.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:27 pm
Feel bad the kid. But this is probably the nail in the coffin. If this kid can’t handle the pressure of a practice closed to the public in May, then he will never be able to kick in high pressure games.
Send him packing.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:28 pm
LakeLand- you are probably right, he is probably doomed, but it is hating until he steps on the field in his second year and continues the crap kicking. He was all over the place last year. Again, Janikowski did the same thing his rookie year- see how the pre-season of year 2 goes before you right him off. I’m sure you weren’t ready to write off Evans his first year when he had the most drops in the league- his only job was to catch the ball. If Folk beats him out-fantastic for you and last year was a wasted 2nd round pick. He isn’t he first bust and won’t be the last.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:28 pm
Not going to be very hard for Folk to beat Aguayo IMO. Aguayo is a colossal bust and you can’t change the past but that draft will forever be blemished by that huge mistake.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:32 pm
Vonn Bell a safety which is a horribly weak spot should have been the pick not aguayo and vonn bell would have looked great in a bucs uni instead of the FSU kicker…but now vonn bell gets to play the bucs 2x a year….ol kooky licht strijkes again
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:43 pm
@JJBuc- Even with all the drops Evans was over 1000+ yards. That’s production. Not sure if the comparison is fair. That said, it is early and there’s time to get it right. Hopefully the kid will pull through.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:47 pm
JJ..I once got fired off a job after 90 days on the job. My manager told me that I wasn’t performing. He stated that my probation period was up, and he had to let me go. That’s life in Corporate America, every employee is a number. If a employee is not performing, then he will be terminated. Professional sports is no different.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:48 pm
Bucfanman- I agree but I can’t stand all of these “buc fans” who are rooting for him to get it wrong again. I would rather admit that I was wrong about a player and watch him succeed than be happy I was the “I told you so guy” and have him fail again. Like I said- let it play out. If he is 30/35 this year- we will celebrate it but holy crap will every kick be a heart attack, LOL.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:51 pm
Sure it is different- these kids are an investment and most positions do not require immediate results- Kicker may be the exception to the rule, we will find out. Sorry for your experience- maybe if your boss gave you more time, you would have performed better, see what I’m saying.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:55 pm
Yea man, I hate hearing the boos and such. BUT, as LakeLand stated, this is a business and if he doesn’t perform, well BYE.
May 23rd, 2017 at 1:59 pm
JJ, I see what you’re saying, I’m pulling for Roberto. I hope he makes every kick. But this is the same franchise that got rid of Matt Bryant and Connor Barth. Therefore our fans will not have the same patience as other fans, plus we spent a 2nd round pick on him.
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:05 pm
I can’t stomach watching him kick anymore… I’m sorry, it freaks me out. I’ve said it before, I hope he makes every kick! At this point tho, I can’t watch him. Good luck🙈
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:07 pm
@ARGH- Yea, me too. Every kick took my blood pressure to the brink. And I mean EVERY kick!!!
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:10 pm
Buh-Bye-Oh!
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:13 pm
I agree with:
JJBucFan Says:
“Janikowski did the same thing his rookie year- see how the pre-season of year 2 goes before you right him off. ……… and most positions do not require immediate results- Kicker may be the exception to the rule, we will find out.”
No Rush on Aguayo or Martin decision, everything is in the Bucs favor if they are patient & let it play out.
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:17 pm
Bonzai please explain how kicking in the NFL is different than college. Please reply as I need a good laugh. Of course it is and to say otherwise is idiotic.
It sounds like they should just cut their losses so that they can bring in a legitimate kicker to try and challenge the new guy. Aguayo appears to be toast.
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Thinking I should clarify my post above. Kicking at FSU is no different than kicking at RayJay.
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:22 pm
Anyone who watched FSU football in 2015 will tell you that Roberto was losing his edge even then. After the GT game, he was around 50% from FGs over 40 yards and and his KOs were weaker.
He was unreal from 2013 through 2014, but lost his edge, and in the kicking game, that means game over. Just ask Grammatica.
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:38 pm
Still can’t believe we burned a 2 on him
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:43 pm
Adios Amigos
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:55 pm
Will RA make it to Hard Knocks?
May 23rd, 2017 at 2:56 pm
Seems like the pressure is too much for the kid. I hate it but glad Licht covered his bases with Folk
May 23rd, 2017 at 3:06 pm
Aguayo is mental. Can’t handle the pressure. He cannot clear his mind right now, and I’ll bet his head is bobbing up after every kick. When you’re in “the zone” and the FG process is like in slow motion, the ball looks like a giant pointy pumpkin and you see each dimple on the perfect contact spot on the ball, you don’t need to look up because the sound of the thump lets you know it was perfect.
You cannot fix the yips.
I LOVE the concept of more narrow goalposts!
May 23rd, 2017 at 3:10 pm
Speaking for Pablo
“Pablo is embarrassed…..Pablo roots for El Assesino to succeed…….but he is kicking like El Ass”
May 23rd, 2017 at 3:41 pm
In May, if any position should be game ready, it’s the K.
Don’t need a shrink now. Just call an Uber.
May 23rd, 2017 at 3:45 pm
Worse than Bill Capece, who got nervous a lot. He said he couldn’t make the kicks while the coach (John McKay) was watching. That got back to McKay, who said to pass along to Capece that he intends to attend every game. Then came the announcement soon after “Capece is Kaput.” Aguayo should ensure his rent is paid up through the year.
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:14 pm
Hum… disappointing. We shall see what the summer brings but I was fully expecting kicker to come in and be lights out. I hate the idea of cutting this guy since I know he’s going to go on and play for like 12 years in the NFL – but if he can’t make kicks then he can’t make kicks. I still think last year if he got a case of season ending “turf toe” early on and was put on IR that it would have been the best thing that could have happened. Many many many great kickers in NFL history have had poor rookie years, they normally have OK 2nd years and by year 3 they’re very good to great and stay there for the next decade. But wow, what a disaster if kicker really is finished. I wasn’t for taking kicker in the 2nd round but I didn’t hate it as much as most figuring Licht wouldn’t screw-up that pick as badly has he’s botched free agency since he’s been here, but if kicker is a bust, that’s a giant red mark against him.
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:29 pm
Thats right..I’m sayin..predicting it now, Roberto gets beat out and loses his job. Can we get a 6th or 7th rounder for him? If not, I can see Roberto as a mngr with one of the Church’s Chicken or Taco Bell franchiases. Crispy Roberto, get my GD order right please sir!!
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:31 pm
Championship teams win in spite of their kicker. I am not going to get bent out of shape over shorts and “narrower than usual goal posts”. I mean, he kicked a 50 plus yarder in practice last year to get the team extra rest that was met with a rousing cheer. The only thing that will count is the games he performs in. Way too early to write anyone off just yet.
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:48 pm
AguayOh-No!
But seriously stop putting so much pressure on the kid and just let hin kick without all of Tampa hating him.
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:53 pm
Again Janikowski was nailing 50 yarders his rookie season. The leg talent was there. Aguayo will never be a good NFL kicker. The “competition” should only last through pre season. Reality, even if he makes every extra point and shows a leg capable of hitting 40+ yrs field goals during pre season (which he won’t), he’s cost everyone from the Glaziers down to the fans enough anxious moments to not go with him this year.
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:54 pm
Jim Kelly say: Scott Norwood
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:57 pm
Ask Minnesota during the playoffs 2,years ago. Oh yeah, Patriots kicker sucks , umm no. Stop your damn FSU homerism and want the best for the Buccaneers. Again, go to JoeFSUfan.com if you want to blindly root for every member of your favorite college team
May 23rd, 2017 at 4:58 pm
Aguayo is goodbye-O.
May 23rd, 2017 at 5:16 pm
WilliamWalls
Lol. Good one. Love those Yogi Berra quotes. What a character. Go bucs
May 23rd, 2017 at 5:22 pm
* my shocked face *
Roberto never had the leg or the strength of mind. He’s not going to beat out Folk. Ginormous bust and mistake.
May 23rd, 2017 at 5:37 pm
What the hell happened to this guy???!!!!!
May 23rd, 2017 at 6:00 pm
Always liked Nick Folk, adding Fitz to back up Jameis, an O-lineman or 2 and the sky is the limit for this team. Strike that….NO LIMITS for this team.
May 23rd, 2017 at 6:08 pm
Folk played all 16 games in the 2016 season, making 27 field goals out of 31 opportunities. He also made 24 extra points out of 26 opportunities.
Aguyao missed nine field goals and two extra points.
Aguyao costs the Bucs 31 points last year. I support the switch, too much invested in this year to let this kid muck it up.
May 23rd, 2017 at 6:56 pm
The pressure of being a 2nd round pick was clearly too much for the seemingly mentally weak Rob. It’s not personal, he doesn’t have it. Nice kid; not kicker.
When was there a worse draft pick? FOOTBALL players warrant a high pick, soccer players don’t. I ask again, what pick was worse, ever?
May 23rd, 2017 at 7:45 pm
I got the yips in baseball, in high school and on a college scholarship-No exaggerating- had a cannon from the Catcher position- threw guys out stealing by 5 feet, and from outfield, one hop to home plate on a line from the fence- all crumbled, couldn’t throw back to the pitcher, hit a cutoff man, warm up at practice, to the pitcher in a game, ball would go 3 feet. Players on other teams who once knew me as great really chimed in and mocked me. Public and peer embarrassment. Peer humiliation. It’s all mental, then a physical manifestation. Extreme anxiety and a brutal thing to be great and “lose your powers” and personal identity.
Personally really feel for this guy. Great he was recognized for what he accomplished in college. He’s blessed to have earned great money so far. Hope he saved some if in the future hhe has to live a life like us mere mortals.
People on here are nasty.
Hope fans and people on this forum will handle with compassion, although it is a business and if he can’t perform he can’t perform.
May 23rd, 2017 at 7:49 pm
Robert “no” needs more si..
May 23rd, 2017 at 8:07 pm
Mike,
I agree some folks can be nasty…like me…but I’m not concerned about making Roberto overcome his little problem when I’ve paid $250 per ticket and the Bucs’ drve stalls at the 25 and they need to get a 43 yarder to pull ahead. I’m not saying you’re supporting him or anything like that…I see what you mean…but you’re right…it is business….
Now, I don’t think he actually lost any games for them last year, though he would have lost the Bucs-Panthers game (last game of year) had the Bucs not got a late score to win by one point. I think he missed like 3 kicks that game.
I’ve thought we’d know by preseason Week 3 if he was the guy…or not…and frankly, for me, I’m glad we got an early look. Ah, another Hard Knocks storyline too!
May 23rd, 2017 at 8:16 pm
I remember when Nick Folk FG beat us, with some help from LVD.
May 23rd, 2017 at 8:16 pm
I just hope Roberto has enough to provide some competition for Folk in the Camp.
Competition brings out the best…I’m not sure today brought out anything good in Folk.
May 23rd, 2017 at 8:17 pm
This is not good!
May 23rd, 2017 at 9:02 pm
Nick Folk and his wife are probably out house shopping. And looking for some good schools for the kids. It’s in the bag Nick Folk, just don’t play any pickup basketball and stay off the dance floor. The job is yours, welcome to Tampa.
May 23rd, 2017 at 10:47 pm
Adding Folk and Fitz, Jets teammates, to a team you want to make a playoff run… I’d rather kicker make the team so long as he wins the job, I hate the idea of taking two Jets and making them a big part of this team.
May 23rd, 2017 at 11:00 pm
@ Armondo ……….. You are making the very point of the problem , he has never been able to kick the ball straight very well. Lots of his kicks in college were more angled than avg, his made fg s would often land far outside of the goal posts. It was almost odd to watch and on longer kicks that had to be kicked straight he just didn’t do it well, not that the ball wasn’t hit well it was just his angle would be wrong . Kinda like a golfer guessing on the green and not really seeing the putt !!!
Honestly think the guy has to line up and kick 15 yards through skinny skinny uprights, hence , learning to kick straight !! Then work out to 45 yards over a few weeks. He simply is guessing his line beyond 30 yards and has no, none ,notta feel or confidence kicking straight !!!
May 23rd, 2017 at 11:36 pm
Bye Felicia
May 24th, 2017 at 12:02 am
JOE you got quoted at NFL.com and they had a link with your website.
you are getting some national attention too.congratulations and keep up the great work that you have been doing for the Bucs.
May 24th, 2017 at 12:17 am
… the biggest disappointment in are the players that were still available and turned out to be studs and we traded up for a kicker what a joke
May 24th, 2017 at 8:34 am
There’s no getting better for him. He can’t kick from over 40, he shanks anything under 30. HE IS TERRIBLE. TERRIBLE. I have no faith in him kicking with a big game on the line. NONE. GOODBYE.