Approaching History
December 27th, 2016
Close to NFL trendsetter.
America’s Quarterback, Pro Bowler Jameis Winston, is on the cusp of an NFL record.
If Jameis is able to throw for 267 yards or more Sunday, then he will set an NFL record for most yards passing for a quarterback in his first two seasons.
Jameis currently has 7,930 yards passing, second only to Andrew Luck’s 8,196 yards.
Luck was a 23-year-old rookie after three years starting for Stanford. Jameis is 22 years old and was a starting quarterback for two seasons of college ball.
Of course, Jameis only needs 70 yards passing to become only the second NFL quarterback to throw for 8,000 in his first two NFL seasons combined.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:12 am
Imagine how many yards and TD’s he’d have if he was accurate and limited the turnovers…
December 27th, 2016 at 8:14 am
We are very lucky to have him. The guy is doing everything he can with 2.9 per carry Doug Martin and throwing to guys that should be in the CFL.
The large majority of fans realize how bright our future is with him at QB but we have a few on here that can’t rap their head around how great this guy is when he should be preparing for the college football playoffs right now.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:15 am
Or if Mike Evans didn’t drop so many passes last year. I hate bringing it up but Winston should have put up a few more TDs and I say at least a couple hundred more yards if Evans would have caught more passes last year.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:28 am
These are meaningless stats! The game is about winning. Who cares if he’s #1 on a meaningless list?! In the end, his legacy will be measured in W’s.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:31 am
Imagine how happy we would all be if Tampa Tony went away.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:34 am
Speak for yourself. I like Tampa Tony.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:41 am
STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!
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December 27th, 2016 at 8:44 am
^^^Exactly!!!
December 27th, 2016 at 8:52 am
@Vincente- Evans improved this year and Winston’s completion % improved. Now if Jameis tightens up his mechanics it should have a good result on Evans and the offense overall.
December 27th, 2016 at 9:07 am
over the next few years, a few things are likely to happpen in the NFC South:
1) Drew Brees will retire
2) Cam Newton will fizzle out (if he hasn’t already – 2 winning seasons in 6 if i’m not mistaken)
3) Jameis will improve
4) the talent around Jameis will improve
If Jameis keeps doing what he’s doing and the rest of the division doesn’t luck out by finding back-to-back franchise QBs, winning the NFC south could be like shooting fish in a barrel soon. It’ll be a 2 QB division, with Matt Ryan declining in his mid 30s and Jameis ascending in his mid 20s
December 27th, 2016 at 9:27 am
1) Matt Ryan has at least another 5 years.
2) Spam Newton is a failure. Bring back Tebow! At least Tebow had a heart and would jump on a fumble-grenade!
3) Drew Brees was kicked to the curb by the Chargers and only 1 team made him an offer! How great it would have been if Nick Saban and taken Drew at the Dolphins! Saban would still be in the NFL.
4) Saints have enough talent in the GM’s and HC’s to find another great QB. Teams like the Saints, Patriots, Redskins, Chicago (possibly – not Cutler), do not need a #1 or #2 pick to win.
Jameis must win Super Bowls or his #1 pick was a waste. Certainly the #1 money after his rookie contract will be a waste. Maybe he is “Jose’s Quarterback” and maybe not. Everyone is hopeful, but the number of can’t miss picks (Spam Newton) who spends more time dancing than working in the fumble drill or whining because he gets hit too hard! The AFC Championship game last year Brady got his arse handed to him…no whining…no complaints. Watch the pounding Drew Brees takes and no whining…no crap about the refs not giving him calls. Watching Russ Wilson hobble around on 1 leg the first 4 games! Gimme some of that!
Just win baby. Stop with the blah, blah, blah and win!
Greg Schiano
December 27th, 2016 at 9:37 am
HIs mechanics will always slip when he’s pressing. Like Leftwich.
December 27th, 2016 at 9:44 am
The Oline play has hurt us ,so has the running game,but the biggest single loss was VJAX.Jameis needs another receiver that go out 15 yards and pull down some contested receptions.Hump isn’t that type of receiver.Koetter has not been able to run his offense because of this.
December 27th, 2016 at 9:51 am
“…Who cares if he’s #1 on a meaningless list?! In the end, his legacy will be measured in W’s….”
Some of you just cannot enjoy the journey. What on earth do you want? As Ocala said, we are very lucky to have Jameis. A lot of QBs have great skills, but don’t take full advantage. Freeman is a perfect example of this. Jameis has a burning desire to be the greatest, not just collect a big check (see LVD & GMC). Enjoy the journey and quit being miserable!
December 27th, 2016 at 10:04 am
He’ll also be the only QB to throw consecutive 4k seasons his first 2 yrs. 3 td’s he ties, 4 and he holds second place alone for the most in 2 seasons. His 86 QB rating ranks second only to Big Ben, who threw about 3k less yds. Research all HOF QB’s first 2 seasons. Jameis is performing better than most. And with a less than stellar supporting cast, I’d say the kid is something special. All you rubes that want the guy to be Montana already are a special kind of stupid. Oh, and check Montana’s first couple of yrs. Hell, check his first 5 yrs. Jameis blows him away.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:07 am
@Greg Schiano, being the best QB in the division (especially a QB-poor division) means alot. It’s a crucial cog in the hall of fame careers of Brady and Manning, among others. Add to that how hard consecutive franchise QBs are to find (Falcons, Saints, and arguably Panthers all currently sporting their greatest QBs in team history) and the table is nicely set for Jameis, who is 10 years younger than the only other long-term threat in the division.
As far as “must win superbowls”, i believe he’s got what it takes, but if he won a superbowl starting for the team that drafted him, he would be the first #1 overall pick in the last 25 years not named Manning to do so. In other words, missing out on a Lombardi would not make the pick a waste…in fact, winning would actually make him exceptional as a #1 overall pick. More important than the pick is the player, and Jameis is trending towards being a really good one.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:07 am
Harry, I think it’s pretty obvious why they rail on Jameis. That kind of hate is inbred and can’t be fixed. It’s a shame. I doubt they would’ve wanted Brees, Montana, Manning, or Favre run out of town. And Jameis puts all there numbers early on in his rear view mirror.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:08 am
“their”
December 27th, 2016 at 10:12 am
Imagine how many yards and TDs he’d have if Doug Martin had a similar season compared to last year. I really believe if Doug Martin was average this year Jameis would have eclipsed 30 TDs. His stats on play-action are exceptional.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:17 am
Imagine if Winston had nfl competent receivers besides Evans to throw to. I think his TDs and yards and completion % would jump to top of the league level. Oh it would help if his receivers could at least get a few yards after catch, we are last in the league in YAC.
December 27th, 2016 at 10:47 am
Say what you will or may..I think Jamis will be ok for the bucs. ..remember qbs like Brady and Rodgers set behind qbs like Bledsoe and Farve for a few which gave them the time to watch and learn..Jamis was put on the feild.day 1..1 other tidbit is..you see what happened to the great T Brady last super bowl when his OL was crap..bucs need better OL play also. .so I think year 3 will speak for its self.
In other words if Jamis doesn’t improve on mistake next year then I will be very concerned…SUPER BUCS FAN since 1976
December 27th, 2016 at 11:13 am
I am amazed everyday at how many idiot buc fans there truly are. It is very embarassing. Some of you should watch the sport of jacks because you do not have the mental capacity to understand quarterback play or the nfl game as a whole. Truly pathetic and embarrasing. Go watch/learn jacks and four square and work your way back up to the nfl. Its obvious you missed some things along the way.
December 27th, 2016 at 11:13 am
Blows my mind that people knock GMC (Harry) when he is once again going to the pro bowl and I believe is tied or leading the league in sacks from the DT position. What do you want from the guy? He is one of the most productive DT’s in the game.
December 27th, 2016 at 11:45 am
Joe did not point out however that the Colts went 22-10 during Lucks first two seasons. The best Jamie’s can do is 15-27 so numbers can ALWAYS be taken however you want them.
December 27th, 2016 at 11:49 am
Geez Harry the Costa Rican!!! 10 years from now will you remember that stat? Nope! 10 years from now will you remember climbing out of the basement to win the Lombardi 3,4, or 5 times? THAT is a stat to remember!
We know he’s good. Don’t get all bunged up!
December 27th, 2016 at 11:59 am
Passing yardage c’mon who cares about passing yardage. He has won more games passing for under 300 yards. He’s a game manager . i bet he has the record for pass attempts. I know he has the record for the most ducks thrown. Some peple love that passing yard stuff. They actually were angry with Winston. For winning but not putting up enough passing yards. It’s Josh Freeman all over again. Nobody doubted Freeman after he had 25TDs and 6 INT as a 21 yo in his first full season. Nobody!!!!!!. When he lost to Foles and the Eagles in his 4th season. With the playoffs on the line. I gave up on him. There are way more doubters about Winston thru 2 seasons. I used to have a -6 Int FF league. To prevent garbage time QBs losing big. Throwing for 400 yards 3 TDs and 3 INT. I called it the John Kitna scoring system. Passing yardage made him a top 5 QB in FF. But in reality he was a bottem 5 QB.
December 27th, 2016 at 12:20 pm
Amazing how many Buc fans assume that a 22 year old kid is already a finished product, and are ready to write him off as a result. Also amazing how many Buc fans are unwilling to acknowledge that the same 22 year old kid is putting up historic stats during his developmental years. He is not a finished product. He is showing rare talent and potential at the hardest position in sports at an incredibly young age. He is doing it with a limited supporting cast. (Joe’s comment in another post today about the dearth of high draft picks among the starting 11 on offense was particularly eye-opening – sneak peak: ME13 is the only other first round pick).
I don’t know what JW3’s ceiling is, but I would suggest that his first two seasons in the league are darn near unprecedented given his age. He is supposed to be a rookie NEXT year, and he has already passed for 8000 yards and near 50 TDs. I’m not aware of a 22 year old in the history of the league that has enjoyed that level of success, and, more importantly, received that much on-the-job training. He has excelled at every level of competition. Surround him with talent, and I would find it hard to believe that he won’t do the same for TB.
December 27th, 2016 at 12:22 pm
@buc believer, yes Andrew Luck did go 22-10 in his first 2 years….in a putrid division leading pretty much the same roster that was averaging 11 wins and a division title in the years before “suck for luck”. It’s obvious from that down year how QB-dependent that franchise is, so i don’t want to diminish what Luck achieved as a young QB. However, there is no comparison between the 2-14 team Luck was drafted into and the 2-14 team that Jameis was drafted into.
December 27th, 2016 at 12:28 pm
Some of you just read what you want to hear. Ask Marino if he’d prefer the stats or a ring!
December 27th, 2016 at 12:36 pm
It’s interesting that the 32 INT are not in his stat sheet. I witness America’s team and America’s QB last night beat down the Lions like they stole something.
December 27th, 2016 at 12:51 pm
Ok so call buc fans are you really a buc fan…this site is about opinions about the bucs to read what other buc fans opinions are and comment on them not calling people idiots. ..your opinion is yours and not for every buc fan….if you don’t like whats written here go to other sites please please don’t call people idiots. …next time yout do take a good look in the mirror
December 27th, 2016 at 12:58 pm
Jameis should be preparing for the Orange Bowl this week – not his 32nd NFL game….
8000+ yards in 2 seasons of NFL play at the age of 22? That’s pretty frickin ridiculous. As is the opinion of any “fan” that still thinks we are not fortunate to have Winston as our QB for the next 15 years.
December 27th, 2016 at 1:14 pm
@Tampa Tony, Imagine how many Yards and touchdowns he would have if he had more than 2 legit targets capable of explosive plays.
December 27th, 2016 at 1:24 pm
Winston will get better. How do I know that?
Because he has demonstrated the desire AND the drive to become the best. He’ll work on his weaknesses this off season. And he’ll work hard.
December 27th, 2016 at 1:36 pm
@blake- would he over throw those receivers as well?
It all starts with qb, once he gets the accuracy and decision making under control he will be elite
December 27th, 2016 at 2:19 pm
I care about only a couple of stats and that is, how many seasons it has been since we have won the NFC South? How many seasons since we have even been a wildcard team? How many seasons have we been in last place with losing records? All of the other stats are really loser stats.
December 27th, 2016 at 2:45 pm
I’m channeling my inner Herm Edwards,”We play to win the game. Hello!”
What does anybody remember about Montana? Stats? Aikman? Please! Favre? Uh, hello!
The game is evolving every year. Passing yards are a joke (unless you’re winning!). Look at Brees. He’s thrown for over 4,000 yards in how many consecutive seasons? How many Super Bowl rings in his career?
Now for my next cliche:”Just win baby!”
December 27th, 2016 at 2:51 pm
@Lakeland. Funny you don’t mention Manning’s 28 picks his rookie year. Or his 100 int’s in his first 5 yrs. You didn’t mention Brees throwing 28 td’s to 31 int’s in his 2nd and 3rd seasons, combined. Or Big Ben’s 35 td’s and 31 int’s his 2nd and 3rd years, combined. How did they turn out? Learn the game before posting what you think you know. Your comment about Prescott shows you know very little about the NFL. Winston would be the runaway MVP if he played for the ‘Boys.
December 27th, 2016 at 3:11 pm
@pick6 I am absolutely not diminishing Jamie’s at all. I believe in him and love what he brings to the team. I’m just pointing out that you can always make any stat look like you want it to.
December 27th, 2016 at 4:09 pm
Lol, you guys are funny. Defense wins championships, duh.
December 27th, 2016 at 8:34 pm
ampa Tony Says:
December 27th, 2016 at 8:12 am
Imagine how many yards and TD’s he’d have if he was accurate and limited the turnovers…
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He’s a second year player douche.
December 28th, 2016 at 1:06 am
To those who downplay “stats” … top 10 “stat” lists are filled with HOF’ers for a reason and I have little doubt than when all is said and done Jameis will be top 5 in all-time passing yards, completions, TD’s … and … wins.