Nines All Around
December 8th, 2015
Buccaneers fans aren’t used to all these single digits.
Through 12 games this season, the NFL official rankings place both Tampa Bay’s offense and defense at No. 9 in the league.
Sure, stats are a bit of a spin job. Both of these chart yards per game, which hardly tell the whole story. But regardless, official offensive and defensive rankings have been around a long time. The Buccaneers’ Super Bowl offense was ranked 24th in the league, despite a No. 1-ranked defense that gave it loads of opportunities. Doug Williams’ 1979 Bucs that made the NFC Championship game had the NFL’s 14th-ranked offense.
If somehow the Bucs finish this season with a top-10 offense and defense, Joe is going to say (without looking it up) that will set a franchise record.
December 8th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
It sure feels like the Bucs are building the most complete team in the salary cap era. I don’t think a team has been dominant on both offense and defense since the Cowboys dynasty. Maybe the Patriots during the early 2000’s, but the Bucs will be better than them.
December 8th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
If it wasn’t for incompetent dog poo Lovie we’d have a top five offense and defense.
(snark font off)
December 8th, 2015 at 2:59 pm
We have never had a top ten offense I don’t even need to look it up.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
Only stats I’m worried about is W’s and L’s and I hope we can somehow sneak into the playoffs. We have to keep getting W’s and the rest will take care of itself. Hell I think we can even take out the Pu$$ycats if they are still undefeated in week 17. Yeah I said it !!! “Momentum is a strange women” Phil Jackson…
December 8th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
Just have to keep the band together.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
@StPete
Lovie is starting to look pretty darn competent.
@Realist
Y U mad, bru?
December 8th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
From NFL.com:
Offense:
Total Yards – 9
Passing – 24
Rushing – 2
Scoring – 18
Sacks Allowed – 11
Red Zone – 21
Defense:
Total Yards – 9
Passing – 16
Rushing – 7
Scoring – 23
Sacks – 14
Red Zone – 22
Looks like a pretty well-rounded team that could cause problems for other teams down the line.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Rankings from NFL.com
December 8th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
We’ll be doing better when those scoring rankings get better. The score when games, not yards.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Especially in the Red Zone, both offense and defense.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
I’m calling Carolina as the Super Bowl winner right now. That was not a reach at all. Carolina and Seattle in the NFC title game. AFC, who gives a damn!
December 8th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
Stat padding against a bunch of tomato cans??? Even if it is, its better than being the tomato can like last year!!!!
December 8th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
“Stat padding against a bunch of tomato cans??? Even if it is, its better than being the tomato can like last year!!!!”
Once again go f*ck yourself. Do you even watch ANY of these games? Stat padding? Jacksonville had a top 3 ranked run defense when we ran all over them. That’s just 1 single easy example off of the top of my head. The schedule we have faced has been tougher than the 3-9 Titans’ schedule and they have just as much talent as we do. You can say that about multiple teams who have done worse than us.
According to you at least 20 something NFL teams are probably “tomato cans”. Do you even realize that there are only 11 teams with winning records right now? The Falcons were 6-1 when we beat them.. at their home.. but lol der der der “tomato can” bs bs lovie sucks im an idiot bla bla f*cking bla
Hell Joebucsfan basically wrote an article just to call out people like you as morons. That’s how stupid this is getting.
You seriously have an excuse for ANY success this team has. I don’t know how anyone could end up like this. It’s sad as hell man. I feel sorry for you. Not sure why anyone would think like this and still watch football. You probably get a ton of headaches trying to make sense of everything to put a weird spin on it when it doesn’t fit with your gloomy narrative.
By the way we were not supposed to be the type of team that wins this much even against “Tomato Cans”. Even with your stupid twisted irrational psychotic logic we are over achieving and doing well.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:51 pm
I do not understand where this “tomato can” or this is an easy year argument comes from.
Again it’s the NFL. That’s how it works! PARITY!!! Generally about six really good teams and six really poor teams and 24 stuck in the middle.
The good teams rock the tomato cans…hold their own against the middle and then the games duh “signature games” don’t really matter until it’s the playoffs.
Again did Philadelphia a team we crushed get a “signature win” against New England? Really? If it had been in the playoffs then yes.
Our signature wins include that great game in Philly with Ronde running that ball back for the TD looking at the jumbotron….THAT was a signature win!!!
Crushing the same team in the regular season was fun but only amounts to ONE regular season win.
December 8th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
Man I was a broadcasting major and obviously slept in math class LOL.
6+6=12 from 32 should be 20 average teams.
December 8th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
I’m with Lord C. Enough of the BS, Realist. G-o- a-w-a-y, troll.
December 8th, 2015 at 4:06 pm
@Lord Cornelius and @StPeteBucsFan, I agree with both of you, I enjoy both of you posts, well reasoned with facts to back it up. Ignore realist and other negative nellys, you’re giving them exactly what they want. You shouldn’t argue with fools although it’s hard at times not to. GO BUCS!!!!!!!
December 8th, 2015 at 4:08 pm
SPBF … Figured out where to download the snark font a while back, but now can’t turn the bugger off. Every time Realist hops on JBF fonts shift automatically to snark … all by themselves. Any hints how to turn it off?
December 8th, 2015 at 4:13 pm
Yeah I seriously gotta stop lol there is no point. I wish I could block him so I didn’t see his comments
December 8th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
@stpete…always a pleasure reading your post…GO BUCS!!!
December 8th, 2015 at 4:22 pm
@Nick2 … “We have never had a top ten offense I don’t even need to look it up.”
http://www.Pro-Football-Reference.com disagrees Nick. Using total yards as the criteria, Bucs were ranked 9th in 2012 under (defensive) HC Greg Schiano. And our QB was … (wait for it) … Josh Freeman.
Using total points scored (a better criteria I think), Bucs only ranked in the top 10 once in their history … in 2000 when they ranked 6th under (defensive) HC Tony Dungy.
And here they are presently ranking 9th under (defensive) HC Lovie Smith. Strange world, isn’t it.
December 8th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Yeah I was gonna say 2012 for offense. That years defenss was much worse though.
At one point the offense was like top 5 for a stretch due to great play by Freeman and emergence of Martin
December 8th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Bucs top 10 offense (by yards)
2012
2003
1984
But there is a reason that they do not put “yards per game” on the score board!!!
December 8th, 2015 at 4:57 pm
terrible, humiliating loss in washington feels 1,000x worse than it did that sunday. and through in the the houston game with the moron kicker and the numbers would bear out in the win column
December 8th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
We DO NOT have the 9th best defense in the NFL. Total yards are an awful measure of defensive performance. Our run defense is stout, perhaps top 5. That being said, our pass defense was bottom 5 before inserting Moore into the starting lineup and it probably ranks 24th now. That’s based on opposing QB rating. It’s not as bad as I thought it would be after the Titains disaster but it needs a lot of work. I think a good defensive end would solve about half of our pass defenses problems.
December 8th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
Rankings should be about points per game. Not yards. YPG are a useless stat for ranking team O and Team D.
December 8th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
John McKillop Says:
December 8th, 2015 at 4:06 pm
@Lord Cornelius and @StPeteBucsFan, I agree with both of you, I enjoy both of you posts, well reasoned with facts to back it up. Ignore realist and other negative nellys, you’re giving them exactly what they want. You shouldn’t argue with fools although it’s hard at times not to. GO BUCS!!!!!!!
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I disagree.. We should argue and shut these trolls down in every article!! Not only are they an embarrassment to this fan base… They are an embarrassment to this country!!!
Oh and we are NOT giving them what they REALLY want! What they really want is Lovie’s WANG… IN THEIR MOUTH’S!!!!
“It’s as simple as that” – Lovie Smith
December 8th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
OneLove bwaaaaaaaaaaw hahahahahahahaha! ! ! ! ! ! ! They want it Dirk Digler style!
December 8th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
It bodes well for a young team.
They are figuring out how to punch it in and how to stop teams in the red zone.
They’ve gotten better and better at each as the season has gone on.
December 8th, 2015 at 6:17 pm
“A lion show not consider the opinions of sheep, are you a lion or a sheep?” -Jameis Winston
December 8th, 2015 at 6:22 pm
“A lion does not consider the opinions of sheep, are you a lion or a sheep?” -Jameis Winston
December 8th, 2015 at 6:30 pm
According to Realist all of us are sheep. Even if we win the SB and are happy with the team we will all be sheep for it.
But if Bucs suck and all of us jump on a hatred bandwagon we would somehow not be mindless sheep but actual smart people because our opinion of the team would fit with his hopeless mantra.
The circle of no logic
December 8th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
Wish you could actually use this from an iPhone
December 8th, 2015 at 7:23 pm
Lord Carnelian you’re killing it. I second the Realist GTFO idea. Scram loser.
December 8th, 2015 at 7:32 pm
Agree with R.O., points scored vs points given up declare the real contenders. If the team is around even or giving up more points than they score, they are likely in the middle of the standings or losing teams. Point differential shows who the best teams are.
December 11th, 2015 at 1:44 am
@Lord Cornelius Says – Agree completely with your post. What sucks is that I try to read all the posts to get peoples perspective. When there are those who use this site for some psychological disorder some apparently have, it is just a waste of time.
@OneLove – You have no class,period. Why you have not been removed is a reflection on Joe.