Ronde Barber: “If I Could Use That Tired-Ass Cliché”
July 3rd, 2015
Ronde Barber has studied more quarterbacks than most cornerbacks in NFL history, and Barber spent a huge chunk of the spring, including significant time on the sidelines of Bucs practices, studying Jameis Winston.
Barber was impressed by what he saw of America’s Quarterback on the fields of One Buc Palace. The raw everything is there, Barber explained on CBS Sports Radio, in addition to the instincts of the great QBs.
“He gives you the spectacular, but he also gives you the rookie, Barber said. “But what I will say about [Jameis] is he plays with zero fear. He’ll let go of any ball. He has that confidence.
“I’ve played against guys that have supreme confidence in themselves and their ability to make plays. You can already see it. He has no fear letting the ball go.
“The guy that preceded him at Florida State, E. J. Manuel, I did a couple of games of Buffalo over these two years that I’ve been working at FOX, and he is the other way. He’s timid. He holds the ball. He’s scared to deliver it when he needs to. This guy is the complete opposite, maybe to a detriment at times; he throws a lot of interceptions.
“But he has that “it,” that bravado, that gunslinger mentality, if I could use that tired-ass cliché, to be a great quarterback in this league. I think the good ones have that. Now how he learns to deal with that as a pro and take care of the football and do the right things on the football field? But he has the tools.”
Well, that should keep Bucs fans off the hard liquor this weekend. Barber’s post-draft scouting report is what you want to hear.
The Bucs are so desperate for leadership from the quarterback position, in addition to a guy with the stones and tools too make plays.
Now Lovie Smith just has to make sure not to transform Jameis negatively with overprotective coaching. Use the weapons and let Dirk Koetter play aggressive football.
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:07 pm
Lovie,
Please let THE MESSIAH do his thing. Don’t turn him into Kyle Orton.
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Rhonde Barber should be in the Hall of Fame!!!!
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:31 pm
in addition to a guy with the stones and tools too make plays.
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Is this too much to ask for?
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Jameis Winston is similar to Brett Farve, he has a lot of confidence in his arm, and we will force some throws to make something happen. His arm gonna win it for you or lose it for you.
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:41 pm
“Rhonde Barber should be in the Hall of Fame!!!!”
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Totally agree, but serious question: why do so many people put a “H” in Ronde? Is it a spell check thing? There’s got to be a legit reason.
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:45 pm
Joe’s favorite was a couple of years ago, a commenter typed that “Rhonde” was his favorite Bucs player.
You would think a guy who loves Ronde would know how to spell his first name. smh
This perplexes Joe, too. Why do so many people insist on adding an “h” to his name. Barber never ever spelled it like that. Ever. Joe could understand if he only played a couple of seasons here.
Did anyone spell Darrelle Revis “Rhevis?” No. Why is Ronde so special to always have his name misspelled by so many?
/Rant over
(Joe loves “Realist” btw.)
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:57 pm
@Lakelandbuc
He gives me a Favre type vibe also which has me very excited. Hopefully he can turn this team into the Super Bowl winning Packers of the 90’s that I despised so much
July 3rd, 2015 at 12:57 pm
Winston is gonna make some WOW throws this Season and he’s gonna make some OUCH throws this season. We just gotta hope the good out weighs the bad.
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:17 pm
I’m glad I’m not the only one Jhoe. I like Rhealist too.
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Supersam seems to be coming around…
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
I would guess it’s because “Rhonda” is usually spelled with an H so people assume the same for Ronde.
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Lol yes I’m warming up to Winston. Especially since Mariota hasn’t even signed his contract. Makes me feel better about Winston.
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:23 pm
That cuz his boy Mariota ain’t even gonna play this year. Still no contract signed huh? Is he the first rookie hold-out post CBA era? Damn shame really.
July 3rd, 2015 at 1:44 pm
let the young man play his game and his confidence will increase as well as the victories it will produce, he will throw interceptions, last time I checked all QB’s throw them even the great ones farve, manning, breese, bradshaw yada yada yada, just hope they don’t hamstring this youngster and screw his bravado as well as his confidence up and he will have a long and illustrious career. but if they try to alter his game too much, or mess with his mind to much, then they might have wasted the number one pick. and ruin his game.
July 3rd, 2015 at 2:04 pm
As a fan of favres game i have to say i think jameis is better. Thats if he lives the game like favre did, which we expect, minus the painkiller addiction. Favre never had the overall tools jameis has, but he made the absolute most of that rocket arm and solid pocket presence. Had nice anticipation and accuracy but not what jameis has on all levels (short, medium, long). He manipulated defenses very well and ive seen that in jameis with the right supporting cast. Ill be shocked if jameis wins only 1 super bowl and cpl mvps. However Favre was robbed in minnesota vs saints, imho. His game after his father passed still sticks with me..amazing
July 3rd, 2015 at 3:33 pm
Aggressive football in the NFL equals turnovers which equals losses. Even Koetter said a couple of weeks ago that their are throws Jamie’s needs to be afraid to make!
July 3rd, 2015 at 3:45 pm
“Aggressive football in the NFL equals turnovers which equals losses.”
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Hey Coach Smith! Welcome to the site. Thanks for joining us fans. You ready for training camp?
July 3rd, 2015 at 3:51 pm
“Koetter said a couple of weeks ago that their are throws Jamie’s needs to be afraid to make!”
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I was watching FSU’s 2015 season on YouTube. While the Bucs certainly have the WR’s…maybe a running game would help. If the Bucs can run, the Bucs can win..!! NFL defenses are not going to allow careless throws over the middle.
* Throwing a guy open isn’t quite the same in the pros.
* Throwing into double coverage isn’t quite the same in the pros.
* Throwing multiple 1st half picks and mounting a comeback win isn’t quite the same in the pros.
Let’s hope that Koetter has plays for slow WR’s and no running game.
Much to the dismay of sports writers, I think slot/WR3, RB’s and TE’s will get the lion’s share of targets this year. That type of ball control passing attack should keep Lovie happy.
July 3rd, 2015 at 4:37 pm
So the Bucs have two 1,000-yard receivers and they are not going to target them???
Dixie Chicks (under Koetter’s offense) had no running game and had no problem putting points up against the Bucs. Oh, that’s right, they had a stud QB and a couple of stud WRs.
July 3rd, 2015 at 4:43 pm
That’s fair.
As Mike Tomlin said about Big Ben and his picks, “Gunslingers sometimes get shot.”
July 3rd, 2015 at 4:46 pm
Hey Joe,
“Dixie Chicks (under Koetter’s offense) had no running game and had no problem putting points up against the Bucs. Oh, that’s right, they had a stud QB and a couple of stud WRs.”
and they did play the 2014 Bucs defense….
July 3rd, 2015 at 5:01 pm
ForgotAbout Dre beat me to it. The old Beach Boy song “Help me Rhonda” could be the reason. I like that song. Many here probably never heard it. I kind of like the idea of the Bucs winging it with Winston.
July 3rd, 2015 at 5:29 pm
Favre is a good comparison or simile for a “gunslinger” type. Another might be…. Hmmmmm….I dunno …..Byron Leftwich?
July 3rd, 2015 at 6:17 pm
Thats the key. Let dirk koetter do his job. Dont interfere dont screw things up. ESPECIALLY if and when they make the post season. I swear to god if they make the post season I will sneak a net gun into the stadium and fire it at lovie in the fourth quarter at a crucial moment to keep him down just long enough to where koetter can run his play. You know a 3rd and 4 4th quarter on the fifty yard line with 3 minutes on the clock. That moment. Lovie needs to STAY OUT OF THE OFFENSE!!!!!
I believe he did learn this during his season off….but what I am afraid of is he will seize control of the offense in a crucial moment of an important game and run it up the middle. I hope not….I hope he has learned.
July 3rd, 2015 at 6:20 pm
RUSTY Rhino….they would have had a run game had they fed one of theyre young talented backs….instead they kept trying to ressurect steven jackson career. I thought it was great when they signed him becasue it would help us beat them. But they just shredded us through the air.
July 3rd, 2015 at 6:42 pm
From what I have been reading Marpet is looking more like a project at this point. EDS (err ES) really isn’t that good and Donovon is a rookie and was a questionable pick taken that high in the 2nd round. Our running back trio is mediocre to bad. I am a little scared that if Jameis starts day 1 it could hurt his conficpdence. Does anyone think it might be best to sit JW for a while and ease him into it? If this line sucks again he is going to get killed back there.
July 3rd, 2015 at 7:45 pm
Just a reminder that we can turn it around quickly. The 98 Rams were ranked 24th and 25th in Offense/Defense with a 4-12 record…We know what happened in 99. GO BUCS!
July 3rd, 2015 at 8:35 pm
Winston should and will start in game one. I do not buy into our running game being that bad. Doug Martin is going to step it up this year and Rainey/James are strong back up runners. I am a firm believer that by the end of training camp Ali Marpet will have the starting RG position. Donovan Smith is a great LT and he was not that much of a reach. The only other LT available who either was not injured or had a police investigation was Jake Fisher. Pro Football Focus ranked the Buccaneers offensive line 8th overall in run blocking. Donovan Smith is a gargantuan improvement over Anthony Collronic. If Marpet can’t beat Gilkey or Edwards out then we have a problem. Houston. Winston is a winner. WINston. Get it. We need him to cha
July 3rd, 2015 at 9:05 pm
I am on the fence about winston starting since I am confident koetter could help glennon lead the team to the playoffs with the defense being as improved as we are expecting it to be……but if Winston starts that means he is who Koeyter think will win games.
As for our running backs. We have really good running backs. The problem is alot of the time we were playing from behind and it baffles me that people downplay the negative affects not having an oc will have on an entire offense. Although koetter didnt lead a good run game in atl with steven jackson….michael turner was pretty efficient there. Jackson was washed up. However we dont have that type of back….accept mike james but he wont get any play time.
I suspect our backs will be doing a lot of pass catching this season. Much like atl and NE. But without a good oc the lineman dont know where to block and if they do the defense has keyed in our the vanilla play calling. Lots of variables. To just say our running backs suck is a statement made by someone just looking at scores and stats and not what was actually happening on the field and with our coaching. Everything comes into play on a team effort
July 3rd, 2015 at 9:36 pm
TouchDownTampaBay, EDS actually graded out better than Jeremy Zuttah on Bleachers 1000 Top 35 Centers, Zuttah was rated 17th and EDS was rated 16th. EDS also was the highest rated Center in the NFC South
July 3rd, 2015 at 10:18 pm
Mariota hasn’t signed his contract? He must realize he has high bust potential and that a second contract may not happen. Needs to get all he can now. Winston on the other hand signed the first day because he knows he’ll be signing in five years for 150 million for six years.
July 3rd, 2015 at 10:25 pm
Is anyone else a little confused y we took Marpet vs. a guy like Aj Cann? Just wondering.
July 3rd, 2015 at 10:54 pm
I Love my Bucs and I love what the Joe’s bring us, but right now it is July 4th weekend. All of my brothers across the world that keep the wolf at bay. Hoooooaaah
July 3rd, 2015 at 11:06 pm
David Says:
July 3rd, 2015 at 10:25 pm
Is anyone else a little confused y we took Marpet vs. a guy like Aj Cann? Just wondering.
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That is simple…..the bucs like Marpet better. It’s as simple as that.
July 4th, 2015 at 12:14 am
Saying that Winston is better then Favre before ever throwing an NFL pass is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on this site. And I’ve read every post joe made about manziel.
July 4th, 2015 at 12:16 am
I have to give you credit for that one Cannons.
July 4th, 2015 at 5:25 am
It’s going to take at least another draft to build his offensive line, no exceptions.
Here’s to hoping he’s still as fearless after the beating he’s about to experience while his line is built.
Most teams build their o-line even if they don’t have the QB position established – because they know the type of QB they’ll be drafting when they do get that chance. That’s exactly what our Bucs have been doing (including Lovie). The only difference is, somewhere along the way somebody thought it’d be easy to change the type of QB of the future…
it’s kinda almost as difficult to pull that off as it is to EASILY switch from a 4-3 to a 3-4 alignment, in one season…
…but I’m with you guys, lets throw reason and caution to the wind. Hope is AWESOME!
I HOPE Kid Fameis is able to stand up under his own power by seasons end!
HOPE is AWESOME!
July 4th, 2015 at 9:06 am
I have a hunch that Jameis Winston is not the type of guy that loses his confidence in ANY situation. The comparison to Farve is accurate as far as personality, and I like that. Jerry Glanville didn’t like it, and made the dumbest trade in NFL history. Buccaneer football is owing to be fun to watch for the next decade or so.
July 4th, 2015 at 10:17 am
The original Kevin – it was the play on the field from our backs, not the stats that concerned me. Martin has no elisiveness anymore and can’t break a tackle. Sims was less than impressive. Obviously there are other variables but the fact that these guys can’t break plays like some of the good running backs in this league is a problem.
July 4th, 2015 at 11:05 am
TouchDownTampaBay makes strong points about the running game. Our backs don’t scare any defenses! Give Simms a chance! I Still think the Bucs should have traded Doug Martin. He is damaged goods. Thank you GS!
July 4th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
If you are going to buy into the gunslinger, you had better have a stifling defense to limit the cost of the mistakes. Otherwise, you could put yourself behind and have to play even more aggressively – right into a defense that expects you to have to throw!
I have faith that our defense will have JW’s back if he can sustain a lot of drives when the defense needs rest.
July 4th, 2015 at 2:24 pm
As long as his interception to win ratio is 12-1 I am not too worried. Of course in 2013 his win t interception ratio was 14-0. Do I see a trend for winning a lot of games?
July 4th, 2015 at 3:45 pm
Mo Downs you mention plays for slow receivers (my money says you couldn’t out run not one of them)but how often did you ever see Randy Moss a guy with blazing speed ever running freely behind a the secondary of a defense? Not often even with his speed most of his highlights Intel him out jump balling two sometimes three defenders for the ball. Feel free to go ahead YouTube him,you’ll see for yourself.
July 5th, 2015 at 11:19 am
All I read is that this Thug will throw an absurd ammount of picks! Start glennon!!!
July 7th, 2015 at 12:55 am
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